Distance of electron from nucleus

In summary, we are considering a hydrogenic atom with a carbon-12 nucleus and a single electron. We want to know the wavelength of the photon emitted when the atom drops from n=5 to n=2 state and the distance between the electron and the nucleus in the n=2 state according to Bohr's theory. The equation for the excited state radius is different for a hydrogen atom and we need to account for the change in nucleus size. The postulates of Bohr's model include the quantization of angular momentum and the shape of orbits and what holds electrons in place is the total energy of the electron. By using the correct force equation, we can find the correct radius for the n=2 state.
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Homework Statement



a) Consider a hydrogenic atom consisting of a carbon-12
nucleus and a single electron. What is the wavelength of the
photon emitted when this atom drops from n = 5 to the n = 2
state?

b) According to the Bohr theory, what is the distance
between the electron and the nucleus in the n = 2 state of the
hydrogenic carbon-12 atom?

Homework Equations



[itex]r_n = n^2 \times a_0[/itex]

where [itex]a_0[/itex] is the bohr radius

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the answer to part A no problem, but b is giving me trouble.

I know that the equation for the radius for excited states is for a hydrogen atom. WIth a carbon nucleus I expect it to be much smaller that the bohr radius, but I can't figure out how to account for the change in nucleus size.

Any ideas?
 
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What are the postulates of Bohr's model?
 
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Bohr's Model says that angular momentum is quantized, or only has certain values, so

[itex]\vec{l} = \vec{r} \times \vec{p} [/itex]

simplified, it is

[itex]l = rmv = n\hbar[/itex]

Right direction?
 
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That is not incorrect, but that does not seem to help much. What is the shape of orbits in Bohr's model, and what holds electrons in place?
 
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Ok so the electron has energy of -122.4 eV = -1.96*10-17J

The total energy of the electron is:
[itex] E = KE + U

E = \frac{1}{2} m_e v^{2} + \frac{k q^2}{r}[/itex]

And by F = ma

[itex] \frac{m_{e} v^{2}}{r} = \frac{k q^{2}}{r^2} [/itex]

I solved for v2

and found this expression for r:

[itex] r = \frac{2 k q^{2}}{k q^{2}-2 E} [/itex]

However I found this radius to be 1.18 * 10-11m which is wrong
 
  • #6
The equation you termed F = ma is not entirely correct, as you neglected the charge of the nucleus.

Then you could use the angular momentum rule.
 
  • #7
Ah I see.

so the force equation would be

[itex]\frac{m_{e} v^{2}}{r} = \frac{k 6 q^{2}}{r^2}[/itex]?
 
  • #8
dinospamoni said:
Ah I see.

so the force equation would be

[itex]\frac{m_{e} v^{2}}{r} = \frac{k 6 q^{2}}{r^2}[/itex]?

Yes.
 

1. What is the distance of an electron from the nucleus?

The distance of an electron from the nucleus is not fixed and can vary depending on the energy level of the electron. However, on average, the distance of an electron from the nucleus is typically around 0.1 nanometers.

2. How is the distance of an electron from the nucleus determined?

The distance of an electron from the nucleus is determined by its energy level and the forces of attraction and repulsion between the negatively charged electron and the positively charged nucleus.

3. Does the distance of an electron from the nucleus change?

Yes, the distance of an electron from the nucleus can change. When an electron gains or loses energy, it can move to a different energy level, resulting in a change in its distance from the nucleus.

4. What is the significance of the distance of an electron from the nucleus?

The distance of an electron from the nucleus affects the stability and chemical properties of an atom. The farther an electron is from the nucleus, the more energy it has and the more likely it is to participate in chemical reactions.

5. Can the distance of an electron from the nucleus be measured?

Yes, the distance of an electron from the nucleus can be measured using advanced techniques such as X-ray crystallography or spectroscopy. These methods allow scientists to study the arrangement of electrons around the nucleus and determine their distances from it.

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