Theoretical Physics: Career paths, work, area of expertise?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the career paths and work of theoretical physicists, including the nature of their jobs, the balance between theoretical and experimental work, and the opportunities for undergraduate research. Participants share their experiences and seek advice on how to navigate their academic and professional journeys in theoretical physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about the number of job opportunities for theoretical physicists compared to experimental physicists, questioning whether theoretical physicists are primarily confined to academic positions.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of a theoretical physicist's work, with some suggesting that it involves significant mathematical work, while others wonder if it includes any experimental components.
  • Questions arise regarding the feasibility of undergraduate research, with participants inquiring about the appropriate timing to start and the prerequisites needed to engage in research activities.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of publishing research as an undergraduate, with some suggesting that experience in a research group may be more valuable than the number of publications.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of additional mathematics courses, with differing opinions on whether pursuing a mathematics minor would be beneficial for a career in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of gaining research experience early, but there is no consensus on the specific pathways or requirements for engaging in research or the comparative job market for theoretical versus experimental physicists.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of what constitutes a theoretical physicist's work, differing institutional requirements for mathematics courses, and the subjective nature of research opportunities available to undergraduates.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a career in theoretical physics, undergraduates seeking research opportunities, and individuals interested in the academic pathways within physics may find this discussion beneficial.

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Hey guys, I'm new here. I read Zz's 'So you want to be a physicist', great post and I learned a lot about it. However, I have some questions pertaining specifically to theoretical physicists.

Are there less theoretical physicist jobs than experimental physicist jobs? What constitutes a theoretical physicist's job anyway? I'm under the impression that they work a lot with mathematics and [duh] theory, but do they do any experimental work at all? This seems as though they're confined greatly to faculty positions at universities. I have a great passion for mathematics and physics, especially theory, but I don't want to major in mathematics or computer science because I really love physics and that incorporates both (or all three). What exactly do theoretical physicists work on? I mean, is it more difficult than experimental physicist jobs? Are there actually jobs for theoretical physicists to actually work as theoretical physicists?

Also, I have a few questions about research. Do undergraduates often do research simultaneously during semesters? When do they usually begin? I'm very eager to start but I don't want to get off on the wrong foot asking researchers for things that aren't even feasible or sensible.

Any advice at all is appreciated, thanks.
 
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I too am interested in this if anyone can give some feedback.
 
Well, you should get started in research, in whatever capacity, as soon as possible. You'll probably be working for an experimentalist, but try to get into a lab in the field that (you think) you're interested in---for example, if you want to be a high energy theorist, you should probably start working in a high energy experiment lab. The sooner you start, the better. And you should do as much research as possible---I'd say it's better to apply to grad school with a 3.7 and one or two pubs than a 4.0 without ever having been in the lab.

As for theoretical physics, you'll learn all the math you need along the way. Do what you want to do and stay curious. Take enough math to get you the formal background that you need (typically through complex analysis, ODE/PDE, and linear algebra). Take a class or two in computer science, but anything more than that is probably a waste of time.
 
Thanks for the reply.

How hard is it to publish a paper as an undergraduate? Is there a certain field I can more easily publish, and does the field have to be the same as what you may want to study for graduate school?

The only math classes my institute requires for physics is Calc. 1 - Differentials and linear algebra. Would it be worthwhile to still take more classes? I was thinking of a mathematics minor.

Finally, when are students usually able to start working in research? Should I have taken atleast Physics I and II, or are more required to ask to be able to do research?
 
hadsed said:
Thanks for the reply.

How hard is it to publish a paper as an undergraduate? Is there a certain field I can more easily publish, and does the field have to be the same as what you may want to study for graduate school?

I'd look for a large, active group. It doesn't matter what they do, however, if you have your eye on a certain field, keep in mind that the guy you work for as an undergraduate will have friends in the field, and will be writing you a letter of recommendation. Pubs are important, but experience is more important. If you work in the group for 3-4 years, you should have a publication or two.

The only math classes my institute requires for physics is Calc. 1 - Differentials and linear algebra. Would it be worthwhile to still take more classes? I was thinking of a mathematics minor.

If you WANT a math minor, you can take one. I wouldn't advise you to do it to improve your chances at getting into a specific school or discipline. Physics is not math, and many physicists aren't that great at math.

Finally, when are students usually able to start working in research? Should I have taken atleast Physics I and II, or are more required to ask to be able to do research?

Why don't you ask the person you want to work for? They don't bite...
 

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