Theories in physics that seemed to work but were wrong?

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This discussion focuses on physical theories that were once accepted but later proven incorrect. Key examples include Ptolemy's geocentric epicycle theory, which accurately described planetary movements but was ultimately replaced by heliocentrism, and Bohr's atomic model, which provided energy levels for hydrogen but is now considered outdated. Other theories mentioned include the caloric theory, luminiferous ether, and Newtonian mechanics, which, while still useful in certain contexts, fail to accurately describe phenomena at quantum levels. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing the historical context and limitations of these theories.

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  • Understanding of heliocentrism and geocentrism
  • Familiarity with atomic models, particularly Bohr's model
  • Knowledge of classical mechanics, specifically Newtonian mechanics
  • Awareness of historical scientific theories such as caloric theory and luminiferous ether
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  • Research the limitations of Newtonian mechanics in quantum physics
  • Explore the historical context and implications of the caloric theory
  • Study the transition from Bohr's atomic model to quantum mechanics
  • Investigate the development and eventual dismissal of the luminiferous ether theory
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I'm trying to (re-)collect the physical theories that once were considered as a correct description of reality and worked to a certain degree, but were subsequently dismissed. I would say that the geocentric epicycle theory of Ptolemy could be considered an example. It correctly describes the path planets trace on the sky, but is obviously wrong since heliocentrism is true. Another example could be Bohr's atomic model. It furnishes the energy levels of the hydrogen atom. Later Sommerfeld extended it to electron elliptic orbits and was able to obtain further fine spectral lines of the H atom. And yet this model is no more than a historical curiosity. I suspect that there are many other examples of theories that seemed to 'save the appearances' but didn't work out. Can you tell of others?
 
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The Caloric theory.

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Caloric.
Luminiferous ether.
Newtonian mechanics.
 
Ptolemy's planetary system.
Atomic models of Rutherford, Bohr.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Caloric.
Luminiferous ether.
Newtonian mechanics.
Why choose Newtonian Mechanics for the list? It's not even out of date for most practical purposes. In no way is it in the same category as Caloric.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Why choose Newtonian Mechanics for the list?
Aidyan said:
once were considered as a correct description of reality and worked to a certain degree

I think that's a fair description of what he asked for. Newtonian Mechanics works well in its domain, but fails spectacularly outside it - e.g. an electron in an atom.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I think that's a fair description of what he asked for. Newtonian Mechanics works well in its domain, but fails spectacularly outside it - e.g. an electron in an atom.
Oh yes - but caloric was complete rubbish even when it was current. Caloric even makes fifteen year old GCSE students giggle.
 
I don't know about "complete rubbish". Sadi Carnot developed the Carnot cycle using it.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
I don't know about "complete rubbish". Sadi Carnot developed the Carnot cycle using it.
Perhaps I have interpreted the terms of the OP in the wrong way. Hindsight can be 100% accurate so perhaps that's where I'm wrong in applying it.
The Maths of a phenomenon can be arrived at by good or not so good models. Carnot spotted some variables that were future proof but his analogue / model of a 'substance' , although forgivable, was seriously adrift.
 
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The phlogiston theory.
 

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