Thermodynamics: Horizontal Tube w/ Sliding Piston - Q&A

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The discussion focuses on the dynamics of a thermally insulating horizontal tube containing gas and a sliding piston. The force on the piston is derived as F = -2xpA²/γV, where γ = Cₚ/Cᵥ. Participants explore the nature of motion, confirming it as simple harmonic, and derive the frequency of oscillation as ω = √(k/m). The conversation emphasizes the importance of using Taylor series for approximating gas behavior under small displacements and clarifies the assumptions necessary for analyzing non-ideal gas behavior in adiabatic processes.

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  • #31
I got if from when you said "(v-Ax)^{\gamma}\approx v^\gamma-Ax\gamma" in post 8.
 
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  • #32
Ah, that was my own typo. Sorry about that. So you should now have

F=-kx=-\frac{2\gamma p A^2}{V}x

which doesn't quite match the given answer, but I suspect we're right and the given answer wrong. Please update if you find another solution.
 
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I have read about Taylor expansions on wikipedia and am still a little confused. What are the Taylor expansions I should be using for (v2-Ax)^gamma and (v1+Ax)^gamma? How did you find them?
 
  • #34
The idea here is that

f(a+b)\approx f(a)+b\,f^\prime(a)

for small b. In this case

f(a)=a^\gamma

So

f(a+b)\approx a^\gamma+\gamma b a^{\gamma-1}=a^\gamma\left(1+\frac{\gamma b}{a}\right)

as you figured out from your knowledge that (1+b)^\gamma\approx 1+\gamma b[/tex] (and I messed up).
 

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