Thermodynamics problem -- Find the mass of water that vaporizes

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The problem involves calculating the mass of water that vaporizes when a specific mass of mercury at a high temperature is added to a smaller mass of water at a lower temperature. The context is thermodynamics, specifically focusing on heat transfer and phase changes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the heat transfer between mercury and water, questioning the correct change in temperature and the assumptions made about the final temperature. There are attempts to apply the heat transfer equation but uncertainty remains regarding the values used for specific heat and temperature changes.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the heat transfer process and the need to account for the boiling point of water. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct values and assumptions, with no clear consensus reached on the solution.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the need for relevant constants and clarification on initial temperatures, indicating that some information may be missing or unclear. Participants are also questioning the energy of vaporization used in calculations.

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Homework Statement



Find the mass of water that vaporizes when 3.02 kg of mercury at 223 °C is added to 0.347 kg of water at 83.4 °C.

Homework Equations


Mercury Q = Water Q + Water mL
mc∆t= mc∆t + mL

The Attempt at a Solution


mass of vapor = ((3.02)(140)(223-tfinal) - (4186)(.347)(change in temperature))/100

I don't know the change in temperatures for sure, all the ones i have tried are wrong.
 
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Alice7979 said:
all the ones i have tried are wrong.
It’s not a guessing game! The water will heat up to boiling temperature, then any additional energy will not raise the temperature (it instead goes into vaporization).

Alice7979 said:
mc∆t= mc∆t + mL
This equation could solve the problem, if you have the correct subscripts (there are two c’s, two ∆t‘s, and three masses involved).
 
Alice7979 said:

Homework Statement



Find the mass of water that vaporizes when 3.02 kg of mercury at 223 °C is added to 0.347 kg of water at 83.4 °C.

Homework Equations


Mercury Q = Water Q + Water mL
mc∆t= mc∆t + mL

The Attempt at a Solution


mass of vapor = ((3.02)(140)(223-tfinal) - (4186)(.347)(change in temperature))/100

I don't know the change in temperatures for sure, all the ones i have tried are wrong.
Although not state explicitly, this assumes that the water is in contact with air at 1 atm, so the evaporation takes place at 100 C (the final temperature).
 
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Nathanael said:
It’s not a guessing game! The water will heat up to boiling temperature, then any additional energy will not raise the temperature (it instead goes into vaporization).This equation could solve the problem, if you have the correct subscripts (there are two c’s, two ∆t‘s, and three masses involved).

mass of vapor = ((3.02)(140)(223-100) - (4186)(.347)(100-92.8))/100 = 540.6

That's what i tried but i still get it wrong, is it the change in temperature i have wrong?
 
How much heat does the mercury give up in cooling from 223 to 100 C? How much of this heat must be used to heat the water up from 92.8 C to 100 C? The rest of the heat is used to vaporize some of the water.
 
Alice7979 said:
mass of vapor = ((3.02)(140)(223-100) - (4186)(.347)(100-92.8))/100 = 540.6

That's what i tried but i still get it wrong, is it the change in temperature i have wrong?
It would be nice, in the future, if you provided all relevant constants, so that I don’t have to look up everything.

It looks like you’re saying the energy of vaporization is 100 J/kg ?
Also I thought it started at 83.4 degrees not 92.8?
 
Nathanael said:
It would be nice, in the future, if you provided all relevant constants, so that I don’t have to look up everything.

It looks like you’re saying the energy of vaporization is 100 J/kg ?
Also I thought it started at 83.4 degrees not 92.8?
Yes, I did have that wrong but I found it. Thanks
 

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