Thermodynamics- pV^n = constant.

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation pV^n = constant for a closed system involving a gas. Given the initial conditions p1 = 20 lb/in², V1 = 10 ft³, p2 = 100 lb/in², and V2 = 2.9 ft³, the goal is to find the value of n. The correct approach involves taking the natural logarithm of both sides, leading to the equation ln(P1) + n*ln(V1) = ln(P2) + n*ln(V2). This allows for the isolation of n, resolving the initial confusion regarding the logarithmic manipulation.

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Homework Statement


A closed system consisting of 2 lb of a gas undergoes a process in which pV^n=constant. For: p1=20 lb/in^2 , V1=10 ft^3 and p2=100lb/in^2 V2=2.9 ft^3.

Find n.

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pV^n=constant

The Attempt at a Solution



Im just having trouble realizing how to find n. This seems very basic and maybe I am just rusty from having the summer off, this is a review question.

(p1)(V1)^n = (p2)(V2)^n

Now I am having trouble realizing how to re-arrange that to find n... I've tried using the relation p1V1^n=5P1(.29V1)^n but everything keeps canceling out. Can someone push me in the right direction?

Ive also tried solving for n in terms of C and plugging that back in and that just gives me a jumbled mess.
 
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The logarithm function turns exponential factors into multiplicative factors...
 
Mapes said:
The logarithm function turns exponential factors into multiplicative factors...

Yah I understand that. But Even if I do that won't I be left with:

n*ln(P1V1)=n*ln(P2V2)

So... All I can do is cancel things out. I can't really isolate n... right? unless I want #n=0.

Feel free to call me a moron if I am missing something obvious :-p
 
You're not taking the logarithm correctly.
 
Mapes said:
You're not taking the logarithm correctly.

Oh God I suck...

So does this sound good to you?

ln(P1(V1)^n)=ln(P2(V2)^n)

ln(P1) + n*ln(V1) = ln(P2) + n*ln(V2)
 
Better!
 
Mapes said:
Better!

Awesome, thanks Mapes! How did I not see that :blushing:

I got to say, I appreciate your help. I haven't been on the boards in quite a while but i remember you helping me in the past as well. Thanks again Mapes!
 

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