Thermodynamics Regenerative Rankine Cycle

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The discussion revolves around the regenerative Rankine cycle, specifically focusing on a problem related to a steam power plant. Participants explore the concept of steam extraction, its implications for calculations regarding steam flow, turbine work output, and thermal efficiency. The context includes both theoretical understanding and practical application in a homework scenario.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of "extraction of steam" in the context of the regenerative Rankine cycle.
  • Another participant suggests that extraction refers to the opening of a valve between the boiler and turbine, questioning whether the exercise was previously done at 8 MPa and now requires adjustment for 1.2 MPa.
  • A participant expresses confusion about where to apply the 1.2 MPa in the problem, indicating a lack of understanding regarding the extraction process.
  • Further clarification is provided that extraction can occur between a turbine stage and the feedwater heater, rather than strictly between the boiler and turbine.
  • One participant mentions the importance of flowcharts in understanding the process and references an external source for visual aid.
  • A later reply indicates that the participant has resolved their confusion and understands that the 700 kPa should be replaced with 1.2 MPa.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concept of steam extraction and its application in the problem. While some provide clarifications, others remain uncertain about the specifics of the extraction process and its implications for the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different pressures (8 MPa and 1.2 MPa) and their relevance to the problem, indicating potential confusion about how to apply these values in calculations. There is also mention of a flowchart that may aid in understanding the Rankine cycle process.

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Im a bit troubled by my home activity recently and maybe i could use some help this is the problem :

In a steam power plant operating on regenerative Rankine cycle with one contact feedwater heater, steam enters the turbine at 8.0 MPa, 350 C and condensed in the condenser with a pressure at saturated temperature of 40 C. Some steam is bled at 700 kPa for feedwater heating. There are 27.5 kg/s of steam entering the high-pressure turbine, determine:

a. extracted steam flow per second
b. turbine work output in kW
c. thermal efficiency of the cycle
( Home Activity : If the extraction of steam is at 1.2 MPa , determine a b, & c)

My question is what is the meaning of the extraction of steam and where would i use the 1.2Mpa or should i change a variable in the given problem to 1.2Mpa? Thanks in advance
 
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Kamuna said:
what is the meaning of the extraction of steam
extraction of steam is the opening of the valve between boiler and turbine, I would say.
Am I right in understanding this exercise was done (in class, or otherwise) with extraction at 8 MPa and now you are asked to do the same exercise at 1.2 MPa ?
 
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BvU said:
extraction of steam is the opening of the valve between boiler and turbine, I would say.
Am I right in understanding this exercise was done (in class, or otherwise) with extraction at 8 MPa and now you are asked to do the same exercise at 1.2 MPa ?

Is this the same question as https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/regenerative-rankine-cycle.1013703/ ?

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the 8Mpa has a solution already but our home activity was if the extraction is 1.2Mpa. So I just need to replace the 8Mpa into 1.2Mpa? I am still a bit confused in the topic so i don't know what extraction of steam means and still don't know where to replace the given
 
Kamuna said:
dont know what extraction of steam means
Extraction, translated literally, means: removal (the taking out) from ex (out) and traction (pulling).

I wrongly said 'between boiler and turbine': it can just as well be between a turbine stage and the feed water heater.
(And must humbly admit that that is the more sensible exercise: with 12 Bar instead of 7 Bar)

Do you have a flowchart of your process at 80 Bar ? Does it look like https://www.electrical4u.com/rankine-cycle-and-re-generative-feed-heating/#:~:text=In%20a%20Rankine%20regenerative%20cycle,)%2C%20where%20it%20is%20extracted. ?

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BvU said:
Extraction, translated literally, means: removal (the taking out) from ex (out) and traction (pulling).

I wrongly said 'between boiler and turbine': it can just as well be between a turbine stage and the feed water heater.
(And must humbly admit that that is the more sensible exercise: with 12 Bar instead of 7 Bar)

Do you have a flowchart of your process at 80 Bar ? Does it look like https://www.electrical4u.com/rankine-cycle-and-re-generative-feed-heating/#:~:text=In%20a%20Rankine%20regenerative%20cycle,)%2C%20where%20it%20is%20extracted. ?

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yep, it looked like that and thanks anyway I've already solved it it's just that the 700kpa needs to be replaced with 1.2Mpa and now I'm good so thanks again for helping me
 
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