Thermodynamics - Thermal Energy of a gas

In summary, the question asks for the thermal energy of a gas, which can refer to the total internal energy of the gas. The formula provided by the tutor uses the number of molecules, mass of a single H2 molecule, and the root mean square speed to calculate the thermal energy. However, for H2 molecules, there are two additional degrees of freedom due to their molecular structure, which results in a factor of 5/3 being multiplied to the translational kinetic energy to get the total internal energy. It is important to review the kinetic theory of gases and the equipartition law to fully understand this concept.
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WolfeSieben
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Homework Statement



The rms speed of the molecules in 1.2 g of hydrogen gas is 1800 m/s.
What is the thermal energy of the gas?

Homework Equations



m = Mass of 1 H molecule: 1.67 x 10^-27 kg
N = Total # of molecules = 7.19 x 10^23 molecules
c = rms speed

The equation provided by my tutor was:

E(therm) = N x (1/2)(m)(c)^2



The Attempt at a Solution




Using the formula i was provided with above:

E(therm) = (7.19 x 10^23 molecules)(1/2)(1.67x10^-27 kg)(1800^2 m/s)

Which equates to 1,945 J.

This answer is wrong, and I am also confused because this number seems oddly close to the translational energy (e=1/2mv^2) which equates to 1.9 KJ earlier in the assignment)

Can someone tell me if I way out to left field and provide some hints?

Thanks
 
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"Thermal energy" can refer to the total internal energy of the gas, not just the translational kinetic energy. The H2 molecule has two degrees of rotational freedom in addition to the three degrees of translational freedom. So you have to multiply the translational energy by 5/3 to get the total internal (thermal) energy.

AM
 
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Perfect, so I multiplied 1.9 KJ by 5/3 and it gave me the correct answer.

However I am interested in understanding the concept behind the question. Why is it that the degrees of rotational freedom and 3 degrees of translational freedom equate to multiplying by 5/3?

Thanks for your help!
 
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WolfeSieben said:
Perfect, so I multiplied 1.9 KJ by 5/3 and it gave me the correct answer.

However I am interested in understanding the concept behind the question. Why is it that the degrees of rotational freedom and 3 degrees of translational freedom equate to multiplying by 5/3?

Thanks for your help!
It is a bit complicated. You should review the kinetic theory of gases and the equipartition law.

A monatomic gas (single atoms) has no moment of inertia (virtually all the mass is located at the tiny centre). So the atoms have translational kinetic energy in three directions and no rotational or vibrational energy. According to the equipartition theory, at thermal equilibrium N atoms having 3 degrees of freedom will have 3NkT/2 energy (each degree of freedom carrying NkT/2 energy).

Now, with an H2 molecule the molecular mass is spread out because there are two nuclei separated by a comparatively large space (ie compared to the size of one nucleus). This gives the diatomic molecule a moment of inertia about two axes (the 2 axes perpendicular to the axis joining the nuclei). It has virtually no moment of inertia about the third axis joining the nuclei because the mass is all on that axis. That gives it 2 additional degrees of freedom for a total of 5, each with NkT/2 energy (according to the equipartition law).

For reasons that I am not quite clear on myself, light nuclei such as H2 lack a vibrational mode at least at lower temperatures so they only have 5 degrees of freedom, 3 translational and 2 rotational each carrying NkT/2 of energy.

AM
 
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@WolfeSieben: I am sure your tutor didn't asked you to solve that question without teaching you the theory/concept behind it. I advise you to go back to your class notes/course book and study the chapter dealing with kinetic energy (or internal energy) of non monoatomic (or polyatomic) gases.
Andrew Mason gave a good explanation, but you need study material and also examples.

good luck !
 

1. What is thermal energy?

Thermal energy is the total amount of energy that a substance or system possesses due to the motion of its particles. In the context of gases, this is equivalent to the kinetic energy of the gas molecules.

2. How is thermal energy related to temperature?

Temperature is a measure of the average kinetic energy of the particles in a substance. Therefore, as the thermal energy of a gas increases, so does its temperature.

3. What is the difference between thermal energy and heat?

Thermal energy is the total energy of a substance, while heat is the transfer of thermal energy from one substance to another. Heat is a form of energy, while thermal energy is a property possessed by a substance.

4. How can the thermal energy of a gas be changed?

The thermal energy of a gas can be changed through various processes, such as heating or cooling, compression or expansion, or through chemical reactions. These processes can either add or remove thermal energy from the gas.

5. How does thermodynamics explain the behavior of gases?

Thermodynamics is the study of the relationship between heat, work, and energy. It explains the behavior of gases by examining the changes in thermal energy, temperature, and pressure of a gas during various processes. It also provides laws and equations that describe the behavior of gases under different conditions.

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