This problem has got me stumped. I need the answer to make an A on a test

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The problem involves a skier starting from rest on an inclined hill and moving along a horizontal surface after descending. The scenario includes parameters such as the angle of inclination, the length of the hill, and coefficients of friction, but lacks the skier's mass, which raises questions about how to approach the solution.

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  • Participants discuss the role of the skier's mass in solving the problem, with some suggesting the use of conservation of mechanical energy and others proposing to resolve forces along the slope.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using energy conservation principles and resolving forces, while others express confusion about specific terms and calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to proceed with the horizontal motion after determining the skier's speed at the bottom of the hill.

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Participants note the absence of the skier's mass as a potential barrier to solving the problem, and there is mention of the need to clarify terms related to friction and energy conversion.

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1. Homework Statement
this straight from a textbook.
A skier starts from rest at the top of a hill that is inclined at 10.5degrees with the horizontal. The hillside is 200.0 m long, and the coefficient of friction between the snow and the skies is 0.075. At the bottom of the hill, the snow is level and the coefficient of friction is unchanged. How far does the skier move along the horizontal portion of thesnow before coming to rest?


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i tried different thing but i can't enderstand how the problem can be solved without the mass of the skier.
 
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How would you solve the problem if you knew the mass of the skier?

ehild
 
ehild said:
How would you solve the problem if you knew the mass of the skier?

ehild

idk how
 
try resolving the forces up and down the slope
 
use the conservation of mechanical energy, i think the masses should cancel out
 
i think this is the way to do it:

mgh = 1/2mv^2 + Wf
mgh = 1/2mv^2 + mu(Fn)cos theta (r)
mgh = 1/2mv^2 + mu(mg)cos theta (r) *h can be found by using sin of 10.5
Solve for Vf = ?

plug in Vf as Vi
1/2mv^2 = mg(d) , in this case d is the distance you want...

and i think you should get the answer
 
Master7731 said:
i think this is the way to do it:

mgh = 1/2mv^2 + Wf
mgh = 1/2mv^2 + mu(Fn)cos theta (r)
mgh = 1/2mv^2 + mu(mg)cos theta (r) *h can be found by using sin of 10.5
Solve for Vf = ?

plug in Vf as Vi
1/2mv^2 = mg(d) , in this case d is the distance you want...

and i think you should get the answer

i don't know what mu(Fn)cos theta (r) or mu(mg)cos theta (r) means.
i suck a physics.
 
u can use the law of energy conversion here, what do u think the initial energy that the man has?
 
indr0008 said:
u can use the law of energy conversion here, what do u think the initial energy that the man has?

i redid it and i figured that the vf is 26.72m/s at the bottom of the hill

now I am on the horizontal part of the equation.
the skier starts from 26.72m/s and the coefficient of friction is 0.075
i still need help i feel so dumb
 
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the coeffiecient of friction is mu and theta is basically the angle, bottom part of the triangle, and to find use your SohCahToa
 
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tdcman92 said:
i redid it and i figured that the vf is 26.72m/s at the bottom of the hill

now I am on the horizontal part of the equation.
the skier starts from 26.72m/s and the coefficient of friction is 0.075
i still need help i feel so dumb

can u show us ur calculation? because if u have found the speed at the botton of the hill, then u are supposed to be able to find the rest of the question
 

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