Three point charge in a plane (electricity in physics II)

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The problem involves three point charges located in the x-y plane, specifically Q1 = -6.00 μC, Q2 = 5.00 μC, and Q3 = -3.00 μC, positioned at specified coordinates. The tasks include calculating the total electrostatic potential energy of the system and determining the work required to move one of the charges to infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss their calculations for the total electrostatic potential energy and the work required to transport Q3. There are attempts to compute the potential energy between pairs of charges, and some participants express uncertainty regarding the correctness of their results.

Discussion Status

Several participants have shared their calculations and results, noting discrepancies in their answers. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the potential energies calculated with different combinations of charges, and participants are questioning the assumptions and methods used in their calculations.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also a focus on understanding the differences in potential energy when considering different subsets of the charges.

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Homework Statement



Three charges are located in the x-y plane (see plot below), with Q1 = -6.00 μC, Q2 = 5.00 μC and Q3 = -3.00 μC. Note that the charges are located at grid intersections points.

*I couldn't put the grid on here, but the points are Q1 = (-2,-4), Q2 = (-2, 2). and Q3 = (3, -4)

a) Calculate the total electrostatic potential energy.

b) Calculate the work required (by external forces) to transport Q3 from its location on the figure to infinity.


Homework Equations



PE = k[(Q1Q2/r12) + (Q1Q3/r1r3) + (Q2Q3/r2r3)]



The Attempt at a Solution



I got part a) to be -.0299 J, which was right. This is what I did for the second part:

k[(Q1Q3/r1r3) + (Q2Q3/r2r3)]=

=k[(-15/√61) + (18/5)]

=1.51x10^10 J.

I have tried both this and its negative counterpart, neither yielding a correct answer. Please help!
 
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jrk012 said:

Homework Statement



Three charges are located in the x-y plane (see plot below), with Q1 = -6.00 μC, Q2 = 5.00 μC and Q3 = -3.00 μC. Note that the charges are located at grid intersections points.

*I couldn't put the grid on here, but the points are Q1 = (-2,-4), Q2 = (-2, 2). and Q3 = (3, -4)

a) Calculate the total electrostatic potential energy.

b) Calculate the work required (by external forces) to transport Q3 from its location on the figure to infinity.

Homework Equations



PE = k[(Q1Q2/r12) + (Q1Q3/r1r3) + (Q2Q3/r2r3)]

The Attempt at a Solution



I got part a) to be -.0299 J, which was right. This is what I did for the second part:

k[(Q1Q3/r1r3) + (Q2Q3/r2r3)]=

=k[(-15/√61) + (18/5)]

=1.51x10^10 J.

I have tried both this and its negative counterpart, neither yielding a correct answer. Please help!
What is the potential energy of the system which has only Q1 and Q2 ?
 
I guess it would be k[Q1Q2/r1r2] = k[-5] = -4.50x10^10 J, but I tried that and its positive counterpart as well and neither are correct.
 
jrk012 said:
I guess it would be k[Q1Q2/r1r2] = k[-5] = -4.50x10^10 J, but I tried that and its positive counterpart as well and neither are correct.
What's the difference between this answer, and the answer with all three charges present?
 

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