Time derivatives of sin and cos phi

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The discussion focuses on the time derivatives of the sine and cosine functions with respect to an angle phi (φ), specifically demonstrating that the derivatives are given by the equations: $$ \frac{\mathrm{d} sin\phi }{\mathrm{d} t} = \dot{\phi} cos\phi $$ and $$ \frac{\mathrm{d} cos\phi }{\mathrm{d} t} = -\dot{\phi} sin\phi $$. The term ##\dot{\phi}## represents the time derivative of φ, denoted as $$ \frac{\mathrm{d} \phi }{\mathrm{d} t}$$. The discussion also touches on the distinction between Cartesian unit vectors and polar coordinates, indicating that the latter does not directly relate to time derivatives.

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Homework Statement


By using chain rule of differentiation, show that:
$$ \frac{\mathrm{d} sin\phi }{\mathrm{d} t} = \dot{\phi} cos\phi , \frac{\mathrm{d} cos\phi }{\mathrm{d} t} = -\dot{\phi} sin\phi , $$

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The Attempt at a Solution


I got this right for a homework problem, but I'm still confused about why the ##\dot{\phi}## comes out. Does the ##\phi## come out because we are doing:
$$ \frac{\mathrm{d} sin \phi }{\mathrm{d} \phi} \frac{\mathrm{d} \phi }{\mathrm{d} t} $$

Also, when do you know if you're working with cartesian unit vectors or ##r## and ##\phi## unit vectors..?
They have nothing to do with time derivatives right?
 
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A2Airwaves said:

Homework Statement


By using chain rule of differentiation, show that:
$$ \frac{\mathrm{d} sin\phi }{\mathrm{d} t} = \dot{\phi} cos\phi , \frac{\mathrm{d} cos\phi }{\mathrm{d} t} = -\dot{\phi} sin\phi , $$

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I got this right for a homework problem, but I'm still confused about why the ##\dot{\phi}## comes out. Does the ##\phi## come out because we are doing:
$$ \frac{\mathrm{d} sin \phi }{\mathrm{d} \phi} \frac{\mathrm{d} \phi }{\mathrm{d} t} $$

Also, when do you know if you're working with cartesian unit vectors or ##r## and ##\phi## unit vectors..?
They have nothing to do with time derivatives right?

Well, yes. ##\dot{\phi}## means the same thing as ##\frac{\mathrm{d} \phi }{\mathrm{d} t}##. It doesn't really matter what the symbols mean. 'Dot' just usually means 'time derivative'.
 

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