Time Independence of the Momentum Uncertainty for a Free Particle Wave

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The discussion revolves around proving the time independence of momentum uncertainty for a free particle in quantum mechanics, specifically in the absence of a potential. The original poster seeks to establish that both the expectation value of momentum and the expectation value of momentum squared remain constant over time.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between momentum, kinetic energy, and the absence of potential energy. Some question the assumption of kinetic energy conservation and the application of classical concepts like work in a quantum context. Others suggest examining the momentum wavefunction or using the time-dependent Schrödinger equation in momentum representation to analyze momentum uncertainty.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants provide alternative perspectives on the assumptions made, while others offer different methods to analyze the problem without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are navigating the implications of quantum mechanics principles, particularly regarding the definitions and relationships of momentum and kinetic energy in a potential-free scenario. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in the assumptions underlying the problem.

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Homework Statement
Prove that ##\frac{\sigma_p}{dt} = 0## for a freely moving wave packet in the absence of a potential. (Here, ##\sigma_p## denotes momentum uncertainty.)
Relevant Equations
##\frac{\sigma_p}{dt} = 0##
Mine is a simple question, so I shall keep development at a minimum. If a particle is moving in the absence of a potential (##V(x) = 0##), then
##\frac{\langle\hat p \rangle}{dt} = \langle -\frac{\partial V}{\partial x}\rangle=0##
will require that the momentum expectation value remains constant in time. Now, I must prove that ##\langle \hat p^2 \rangle## is also constant in time. I used the kinetic energy formula ##\hat T = \frac{\hat p^2}{2m}## to assert that ##\frac{d\langle p \rangle}{dt} = 2m\frac{d\langle T\rangle}{dt}=0## because the total kinetic energy of a freely moving particle is conserved. I justified my claim by arguing that there cannot be any work in the absence of a potential so that potential must be constant. Then, the momentum uncertainty ##\sigma_p = \sqrt{\langle p^2 \rangle - \langle p \rangle^2}## is formed from two functions that are constant in time is consequently time-invariant itself.
 
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It seems all right to me.  You may check it directly from momentum wavefunction which you get from Gaussian coordinate wavefunction with growing dispersion, by Fourier transform.
 
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Homework Statement:: Prove that ##\frac{\sigma_p}{dt} = 0## for a freely moving wave packet in the absence of a potential. (Here, ##\sigma_p## denotes momentum uncertainty.)
Relevant Equations:: ##\frac{\sigma_p}{dt} = 0##

Mine is a simple question, so I shall keep development at a minimum. If a particle is moving in the absence of a potential (##V(x) = 0##), then
##\frac{\langle\hat p \rangle}{dt} = \langle -\frac{\partial V}{\partial x}\rangle=0##
will require that the momentum expectation value remains constant in time. Now, I must prove that ##\langle \hat p^2 \rangle## is also constant in time. I used the kinetic energy formula ##\hat T = \frac{\hat p^2}{2m}## to assert that ##\frac{d\langle p \rangle}{dt} = 2m\frac{d\langle T\rangle}{dt}=0## because the total kinetic energy of a freely moving particle is conserved. I justified my claim by arguing that there cannot be any work in the absence of a potential so that potential must be constant. Then, the momentum uncertainty ##\sigma_p = \sqrt{\langle p^2 \rangle - \langle p \rangle^2}## is formed from two functions that are constant in time is consequently time-invariant itself.
I'm not totally convinced. Why can you assume conservation of KE? The concept of "work" is not very QM.

An alternative is to consider the relationship between momentum and a potential-free Hamiltonian.
 
I'd solve the time-dependent Schrödinger equation in momentum representation, given an arbitrary square-integrable ##\psi(t=0,\vec{p})=\psi_0(\vec{p})## and then think about, how to calculate ##\sigma_p(t)## with it.
 

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