Time it takes for the wheel to stop?

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The problem involves a potter's wheel with a specified diameter and mass, which is spinning at a certain speed. The scenario describes the application of friction by the potter's hands while forming a pot, leading to a question about the time it takes for the wheel to stop once the motor ceases to provide torque.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of angular acceleration and the moment of inertia of the wheel. There are questions about the relevance of the applied force and its point of application, as well as differing answers regarding the time it takes for the wheel to stop.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing calculations and questioning the assumptions made about torque and the application of force. There are multiple interpretations of the problem, and some participants express confusion about the relationship between the potter's actions and the wheel's motion.

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A 34-cm-diameter potter's wheel with a mass of 20 kg is spinning at 180 rpm. Using her hands, a potter forms a pot, centered on the wheel, with a 14 cm diameter. Her hands apply a net friction force of 1.3 N to the edge of the pot. If the power goes out, so that the wheel's motor no longer provides any torque, how long will it take for the wheel to come to a stop in her hands?

Angular acceleration= net Torque/moment of inertia so

(1.3)(.07)/ (20 *.07^2)= .93 radians/second^2

So since angular acceleration=change in angular Velocity/time then:

-.98 = (0-19.8)/change in time so t=19.2 seconds.

Where the initial angular velocity was 19.8 by converting the 180 rev/min to 19.8 radians/sec.

So is my answer of 19.2 seconds correct?

Thank you kindly for your help.
 
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Check the moment of inertia of the wheel whose diameter is 34 cm.
 
So that's MR^2 which is 20 * .17^2= .578 but how does this help me?
 
sona1177 said:
So that's MR^2 which is 20 * .17^2= .578 but how does this help me?


angular acceleration α = (1.3)(.07)/ (20 *.17^2)= ... radians/second^2

ω = ωο - α*t

In the problem ω = 0 and ωο = 6*π radians/second.

Now find t.
 
Thank you but she applies the force on the pot not on the wheel so this is why I am confused.
 
sona1177 said:
Thank you but she applies the force on the pot not on the wheel so this is why I am confused.

Torque depends on the point of application of the force. Therefore the torque is F*r, where r is the radius of the pot. This torque rotates the wheel with an angular acceleration such that F*r = I*α.
 
Thank you so much for taking the time to help me! :)
 
My answer is 118 seconds. Is that correct? Again, thank you so much for taking the time to help me! :)
 
sona1177 said:
My answer is 118 seconds. Is that correct? Again, thank you so much for taking the time to help me! :)

I am getting 119.7 seconds.
 

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