Time to rotate system 20 degrees

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving the rotation of a load by 20 degrees within a mechanical system, specifically focusing on the dynamics of torque and angular velocity. The context includes parameters such as coupling efficiency, inertia values, and a triangular speed profile for the load's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between torque and angular velocity, questioning how to apply the given equations to find the time required for the load to rotate. There is discussion about the implications of a constant angular acceleration and the integration of torque over time.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the nature of the angular velocity and its relationship to the motor's speed. There is a recognition of the need for further clarification on the original problem setup, as some participants are seeking additional context about the referenced Problem 2-6.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of missing information regarding the original problem statement and the system it describes. Participants express uncertainty about the appropriateness of the problem's placement within the forum's sections.

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Homework Statement


In the system of Problem 2-6, we need move the load by 20 degrees and bring the system to rest. Assuming a triangular speed profile of the load with equal acceleration and deceleration rates (starting and ending at zero speed). Assume a coupling efficiency of 100%. The magnitude of the electromagnetic torque (positive or negative) available from the motor is 500 Nm.

nL/nM= 3
JL = 8.3 kg*m2
JM = 1.4 kg*m2

What is the time (in seconds) needed to rotate the load by an angle of 20o? Give the correct answer to 3 or more decimal places.

Homework Equations


T(em) = [Jm + (Wl/Wm)^2 * Jl]*dw/dt

The Attempt at a Solution


I see a dt in there so I think this is my hint. I know I can set T(em) to 500. Jm is given, and I believe W (omega) of load is 3 times smaller than the motor, w/w would be (1/3)^2. But dw/dt is constant due to the triangle torque constraint isn't it? Cant integrate that right? Could someone explain how I am thinking of this wrong with a push in the right direction? Thanks.
 
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In the system of Problem 2-6,...
Where is problem 2.6 and what is the system it proposes?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Where is problem 2.6 and what is the system it proposes?
Im sorry. I completely forgot to add those! See file attached.
 

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D.B0004 said:
Im sorry. I completely forgot to add those! See file attached.
Wow and now I posted the WRONG PICTURE. Thought I only had one screen shot.
 

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This problem probably shouldn't be in the introductory section...but hey maybe someone will get it.
 
Here are equations listed below the figure.
 

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D.B0004 said:
I believe W (omega) of load is 3 times smaller than the motor
In the time the motor rotates once, how often does the load rotate?
D.B0004 said:
dw/dt is constant
It's constant during each of the two phases, acceleration and deceleration.
D.B0004 said:
Cant integrate that right?
Constants are the easiest of all to integrate.
 

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