Time Travel into the Future: What Would Be the Reason?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around hypothetical scenarios and motivations for time travel into the future, particularly focusing on the implications of traveling at near the speed of light. Participants explore various reasons for such travel, including personal, legal, and financial considerations, as well as the consequences of time dilation as described by relativity.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that traveling at near the speed of light results in significant time dilation, where the traveler ages much less than those who remain on Earth.
  • Others propose practical reasons for time travel, such as outlasting a statute of limitations or waiting for a delayed investment to mature.
  • A few participants introduce speculative ideas, such as the possibility of brain transplants into younger clones as a motivation for time travel.
  • One participant emphasizes the inevitability of the consequences of time dilation, particularly in relation to family and relationships upon returning from a long journey.
  • Another participant discusses the energy requirements for traveling at relativistic speeds, comparing the outcomes of using relativity versus Newtonian physics for hypothetical space travel scenarios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the motivations for time travel and the implications of time dilation, with no clear consensus on the validity or practicality of the proposed reasons. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best or most compelling reasons for time travel into the future.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference complex calculations involving energy requirements for relativistic travel, highlighting the differences between relativistic and Newtonian physics without reaching a definitive conclusion on the implications of these calculations.

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Although we can't technically do this currently, what if we could? What would be a reason to send a person on a mission into the future? If Bob travels at near the speed of light from Earth for let's say 5 years and then returns to see Alice. Alice has, and in fact the entire population of Earth and everything on it has aged much more than Bob. Bob is now the only one who hasn't aged more than 5 years. Seems like there is no valid reason to ever do this, even if we could.
 
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Travelling at near the speed of light is really expensive.
All you want is some form of stasis.

As for a reason - perhaps the traveler needs to outlast a Statute of Limitation. Or he has made an investment that he doesn't expect to pay off for another century.
 
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Or... Perhaps a brain transplant into your own younger clone.
 
You are time traveling into the future. If you are lucky you have a job there.
 
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.Scott said:
As for a reason - perhaps the traveler needs to outlast a Statute of Limitation. Or he has made an investment that he doesn't expect to pay off for another century.

Very interesting in both cases! I can only imagine the laws that might have to be written in the future!
 
I'm not sure it's a case of "why would you". It's an inevitable consequence of doing a twin-paradox-type journey. So if you want to take a trip to a distant star in your lifetime, you have to accept that your kids'll be dead when you get back.
 
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I'm not sure it's a case of "why would you". It's an inevitable consequence of doing a twin-paradox-type journey. So if you want to take a trip to a distant star in your lifetime, you have to accept that your kids'll be dead when you get back.
But without relativity, you would never have gotten back at all.

Actually, that's probably not true. By the time you expend that much energy, without c as a limit, you could probably make the trip in a similar amount of time.
 
.Scott said:
But without relativity, you would never have gotten back at all.

Actually, that's probably not true. By the time you expend that much energy, without c as a limit, you could probably make the trip in a similar amount of time.

Let's assume you want to get to a star 7 light years away, but only spend 1 yr by your clock doing so. Using Relativity, you would need to travel at 0.99c to accomplish this and would require 5.48e17 J/kg of energy to acquire this velocity.
using Newtonian physics, the same energy will get you to a velocity of ~10.5e8 m/sec or just under 3.5 times the speed of light, meaning your trip of 7 ly will take 2 years, or over twice as long as it did using Relativity.
Now let's up this to a 70.7 ly trip in 1 ship year. This requires a speed of 0.9999c under Relativity, and 6.27e18 J/kg of energy. This energy, using Newton will get you up to 11.8 times the speed of light, resulting in a 6 year long trip.
A trip out to 500 ly and back would take 14.14 yrs ship time per Relativity at 0.9999c and 84.9 yrs per Newton for the same energy budget.
 
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.Scott said:
Travelling at near the speed of light is really expensive.
All you want is some form of stasis.

As for a reason - perhaps the traveler needs to outlast a Statute of Limitation. Or he has made an investment that he doesn't expect to pay off for another century.
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