Timing Marks on Engine, Timing Chain - Conceptual Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conceptual understanding of timing marks on an engine's timing chain and the implications of not aligning these marks correctly. Participants explore the mechanical reasoning behind the necessity of proper timing in relation to engine function, particularly focusing on synchronization between the crankshaft and camshaft.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that timing chains have colored links that must align with timing marks on the engine to achieve proper timing, questioning the mechanical differences if these marks are not aligned.
  • Another participant explains that the timing chain synchronizes the rotation of the crankshaft and camshaft, ensuring that the engine's valves operate correctly in relation to the pistons.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that as long as the correct number of links or steps are maintained between the pulley timing marks, the engine will function, implying that marked links primarily aid in initial accuracy during assembly.
  • This participant also introduces the concept of a factor of two between the crank and cam, discussing the importance of link length sharing prime factors with the gears to ensure even wear of the chain or belt once the engine operates.
  • A summary post reiterates the question of why aligning the timing marks is necessary, hinting at additional considerations related to interference engines.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of aligning timing marks, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the mechanical reasoning involved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationship between link length, gear factors, and engine timing are not fully explored, leaving potential gaps in understanding the mechanical interactions at play.

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Why do you need to to line up the timing marks?
On an engine, the timing chain has colored links, and you have to line up these colored links on timing marks on the engine. There's typically marks on sprockets, bearing caps, gears.

A understand that you have to line these up in order to get proper timing. I understand that is the reason why, but conceptually why does not doing so result in the engine not getting properly timed? I do not understand conceptually what is mechanically different, as it's still the same timing chain that is of the length, going around the same sprockets.
 
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The timing chain synchronize the rotation of the crankshaft and the camshaft. This synchronisation ensures that the engine's valves open and close at the correct times in relation to the position of the pistons. (source)

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YoshiMoshi said:
I do not understand conceptually what is mechanically different, as it's still the same timing chain that is of the length, going around the same sprockets.
It is the same chain, or the same timing belt, so the marks on the belt or chain do not have to be correct. So long as the correct number of links, or steps are between the pulley timing marks, it will work. It is easier to get it right the first time if the chain or belt is marked. Marked links reduce the accuracy that the pulleys must be lined up with the engine block or head marks during reassembly.

There will be a factor of two between the crank and the cam. If the length of the belt, in links or steps, does not share prime factors with the crank or cam gear, then the chain or belt will wear evenly once the engine is started. That is the equivalent of a hunting tooth in a gear train.
 

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