To compare an integral with an identity

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The discussion revolves around proving an inequality involving an integral defined as \( a_n = \int_{0}^{\pi} \frac{\sin(x)}{n \cdot \pi + x} dx \), where \( n \geq 1 \). Participants are exploring the relationship between the integral and the bounds given by the inequality \( \frac{2}{(n+1) \cdot \pi} \leq a_n \leq \frac{2}{n \pi} \).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the behavior of the integral as \( n \) increases, questioning whether the initial proof attempt sufficiently supports the inequality. Some suggest using comparisons with known bounds for the integral to establish the inequality.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and approaches to the problem. Some have expressed a desire to present their own work for review, indicating a collaborative atmosphere. However, there is no explicit consensus on the proof's validity yet.

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Integral inequality and comparison

Homework Statement



Prove the inequality

\frac{2}{(n+1) \cdot \pi} \leq a_n \leq \frac{2}{n \pi}}

where a_n = \int_{0}^{\pi} \frac{sin(x)}{n \cdot \pi +x} dx

and n \geq 1

The Attempt at a Solution



Proof:

If n increased the left side of inequality because smaller every time it increases while the integral becomes larger, then by camparison the right side of the inequality always will become larger, than the integral.

Is this proof enough?

Sincerely
Maria.
 
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well try to use the fact that

n\pi\leq \pi n+x \leq n\pi+\pi, then

\frac{1}{n\pi+\pi}\leq\frac{1}{n\pi+x}\leq\frac{1}{n\pi}, multiply both sides by sinx, we get, notice that x goes only from 0 to pi, so sinx is always positive, so

\frac{sin x}{n\pi+\pi}\leq\frac{sin x}{n\pi+x}\leq\frac{sin x}{n\pi}, now

\int_0^{\pi}\frac{sin x }{n\pi+\pi}dx\leq\int_0^{\pi}\frac{sin x}{n\pi+x}dx\leq\int_0^{\pi}\frac{sin x}{n\pi}dx,
now
\frac{1}{n\pi+\pi}\int_0^{\pi}sin xdx\leq\int_0^{\pi}\frac{sin x}{n\pi+x}dx\leq\frac{1}{n\pi}\int_0^{\pi}\sin xdx,
I think this will work!
 
I shouldn't have done the whole thing for you, since you are on the homework forum, and you are supposed to show your work, however, i hope u got it now!
 
sutupidmath said:
I shouldn't have done the whole thing for you, since you are on the homework forum, and you are supposed to show your work, however, i hope u got it now!

I get it now. I will present something that I have been working later I hope you will review.
 
Hummingbird25 said:
I get it now. I will present something that I have been working later I hope you will review.

well, someone will!
 

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