Top quark heavier than the Higgs?

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The top quark, discovered before the Higgs boson, is theorized to derive its mass primarily from the Higgs mechanism, although some mass may originate from an undiscovered heavier Higgs boson. The top quark's frequent production via strong interactions and distinctive decay patterns facilitate its identification, unlike the Higgs, which suffers from significant background noise in its decay processes. The absence of viable theoretical alternatives to the top quark prior to its discovery allowed for more focused search strategies, enhancing detection efficiency. This discussion highlights the complexities of particle discovery and the interplay between mass, production mechanisms, and theoretical frameworks.

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If the top quark is heavier than the Higgs boson, then why was it discovered first? Does the top quark get all of its mass from the Higgs? Or does some of its mass come from somewhere else, perhaps a heavier Higgs boson, not yet discovered?
 
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bsaucer said:
then why was it discovered first?
Because mass is not all that determines how difficult it is to discover a particle. (Neutrinos were discovered long after electrons and protons ...)

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Does the top quark get all of its mass from the Higgs? Or does some of its mass come from somewhere else, perhaps a heavier Higgs boson, not yet discovered?
It is impossible to answer this question. All observations made so far are compatible with the Higgs being solely responsible for the top mass.
 
The top can be produced via the strong interaction, which means is produced frequently. Usually it is produced in pairs decaying to unusual final states, which makes identification quite easy. Compare this to the Higgs which is produced less frequent, as single particle, and where most decays are indistinguishable from other processes (more details here).
 
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Given the precision of electromagnetic instrumentation, it is often easier to detect charged particles than non-charged particles.

Also, perhaps more importantly, most Higgs boson decays have large SM backgrounds from other processes that look similar to Higgs decays. In contrast, a top decay is more distinctive with fewer similar processes to create background. The diphoton decay of the Higgs was critical to its discovery, even though it isn't a particularly large branching fraction of Higgs decays, because it has a much smaller SM background than the more common Higgs decays.

And, unlike the Higgs for which theoretical alternatives were being discussed right up to a few months before it was discovered, there was no viable theoretical alternative to the top. Once a third generation fermion was found, the exact properties of the top, except mass and CKM matrix entries, were overwhelmingly clear and the mass and CKM matrix could be guessed within boundaries from existing data. We knew that the CKM matrix entries for top to strange and top to down had to be vanishingly small and we had a lower bound for the top mass. So there was a pretty clear and more importantly undisputed among physicists, target to search for. A clear target makes it easier to design narrowly tailored searches for what you are looking for in a more efficient way.
 
ohwilleke said:
Given the precision of electromagnetic instrumentation, it is often easier to detect charged particles than non-charged particles.
This applies only to particles crossing the detector. Both the Higgs and the top decay way too fast for that.
 

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