Torsional Pendulumn- Inertia and Period

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The discussion revolves around a torsional pendulum problem, specifically examining how changes in the size and mass of the balance wheel affect the period of oscillation. Participants are analyzing the implications of doubling the radius and thickness of the disk while keeping the torsional constant constant.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the moment of inertia and the period of the pendulum, with one participant attempting to calculate the period based on changes in mass and radius. Questions arise regarding the doubling of mass and its impact on the calculations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations related to the period and angular frequency. Some participants have identified potential mistakes in their reasoning and calculations, particularly regarding the relationship between mass, moment of inertia, and the resulting period. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the density remains constant while the radius and thickness of the disk are doubled, leading to questions about the resulting mass and its effect on the moment of inertia.

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Homework Statement


Assume the balance wheel of a torisonal pendulumn is doubled in size but the torison constant of the spring remains the same. The density of the disk remains the same, but bot the radius and the thickness double. What happens to the period of the pendulumn?

a) Period doubles
b) period goes up by a factor of sqrt(2)
c) period goes up by factor of four
d) period goes up by factor of 4sqrt(2)
e) none of the other answers

Homework Equations


omega = sqrt(k/I)
k= torsional constant
I = 1/2MR^2
R is doubled and M is doubled (since thickness/size doubled)

The Attempt at a Solution


My answer is e) none of the answers because i calculated that the period actually goes down...
w = sqrt(k/I)
I = 1/2MR^2 = 1/2 (2M)(2R)^2 = 8 (1/2MR^2)

--> w = sqrt(k/(8*I)) = 1/ sqrt(8) * sqrt(k/I)
W = 2pi/T --> T = 2pi / (sqrtk/I)
--> 1/sqrt(8) T
the period went down by sqrt(8).
 
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Do I read correctly that you think that omega AND T both go down by the same factor ?
 
BvU said:
Do I read correctly that you think that omega AND T both go down by the same factor ?
Oh man. I found my mistake! The period went up by sqrt(8). Omega went down by sqrt(8) . But, squrt(8) isn't any of the options? I must have calculated the moment of inertia incorrectly?
 
M doubles ?
 
lc99 said:
Oh man. I made a mistake! The period went up by sqrt(8). Omega went down by sqrt(8) . But, squrt(8) isn't any of the options?
BvU said:
M doubles ?
BvU said:
M doubles ?
i thought so because the size/thickeness doubles
 
If the thickness doubles, the mass doubles.
If the radius doubles, the mass ...
 
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