Total Distance Traveled by Bouncing Ball Series

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the total distance traveled by a ball dropped from a height of 16 feet, which rebounds to a fraction of its previous height (0.81 times). Participants are exploring the implications of geometric series in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different formulations of the total distance, including the reasoning behind summing distances for rebounds and the treatment of the initial drop. Questions arise regarding the correctness of various approaches and the implications of including or excluding the initial drop distance.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants providing insights into the reasoning behind different methods of summation. Clarifications about the treatment of the initial drop and subsequent rebounds are being discussed, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating differences in interpretation of the problem setup, particularly regarding the initial drop and how it contributes to the total distance. There is mention of external resources and differing solutions presented in a textbook.

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Homework Statement



A ball is dropped from a height of 16 feet. Each time it drops h feet, it rebounds 0.81h feet. Find the total distance traveled by the ball.

Homework Equations



Geometric series sum of ar^n

The Attempt at a Solution



D1= 16 feet
D2 = 16(0.81) + 16(0.81) = 32(0.81)
Then D3 = 32(0.81)^2

So then you have D = 16 + 32(sum from n = 1 to ∞) (0.81)^n+1

= 16 + 32(0.81)(sum from n = 0 to ∞) (0.81)^n
= 152.42 ft (right answer)
When I first did my own I got D = 16 + 32(sum from n = 0 to ∞)(0.81)^n

My question is why is this not correct?


Also the book did it a different way and had
-16 + (sum from n = 0 to ∞)32(0.81)^n

why would you subtract 16? This is what I had when it was wrong except they subtract 16. Why?
 
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Hello. Sorry but I didn't quite understand. ( That's probably because of my English)

The way your book answers it is correct. Because by summing 32(0,81)^n where n is from 0 to ∞, it assumes that the ball travels D1 twice. ( Up and down)

Here is how it looks like without subtracting 16;

http://www.sketchtoy.com/42921712

Here is the exact answer;

http://www.sketchtoy.com/42921326

Jbreezy said:
When I first did my own I got D = 16 + 32(sum from n = 0 to ∞)(0.81)^n

My question is why is this not correct?

We have D= 16 + 32(sum from n=1 to ∞)(0,81)n
 
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Because the ball only has one trip of length 16. If the ball started from the ground and bounced up 16 feet, then the total distance would be 2\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} 16(.81)^n= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} 32(.81)^n. The answer is 16 less than this since the first trip of length 16 is not made.
 
Oh I see thanks
 

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