Find the fourier sine series of cosine.

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The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier sine series of the cosine function, specifically addressing the conditions under which sine series can be applied to an even function like cos(t). Participants are exploring the implications of using odd half expansions and the appropriate intervals for integration.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of sine series for odd functions and question the definition of the function over the specified intervals. There is an exploration of whether to use L=π or L=π/2 for the integration limits and the implications of letting n=1 in the calculation of Fourier coefficients.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the definition of the function and the calculation of Fourier coefficients, while others are still questioning the validity of their assumptions and the steps taken in their calculations. There is a recognition of errors in the integration process, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the definition of the function in the interval -π

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Homework Statement


Hi, so I am doing some past exam papers and there was this question;
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a0 and an both are equal to zero, this leaves only bn.

Since you can only use the sine series for an odd function, and cos(t) is even, does this mean i have to find the odd half expansion of cos(t) with L=π ? This would be f(t) = -cos(t) for [-π,0] and cos(t) for [0,π]. Or do I use L= π/2 and do the integral from 0 to π for bn?

Letting n=1 since it is the first partial sum we are talking about (can i do this?)then using the first method I get 16/(3π) and if i try the second method I get 8/(3π). But the answer is listed as 0.

Any help would be great thanks.
 
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You should write the relevant equations.
The problem text does not define f(t) in the interval -pi<t<0. If its Fourier series contains only sine terms, that suggests that the function is odd, f(t) = -cos(t) if -pi<t<0.
What is the formula for the Fourier coefficients of an odd function?
 
Hi ehild, sorry i wasn't quite sure how to typeset them.

I did write that if I perform the odd half expansion of cos(t) I get
f(t) = cos(t) for [0,π] and f(t) = -cos(t) for [-π,0]
Using this (and assuming I can let n=1 since it is this first partial sum, but I am not sure if i can do this) then ##b_1=\frac{1}{\pi}[\int_{-\pi}^0-\cos{t}\sin{2t}dt + \int_{0}^{\pi}\cos{t}\sin{2t}dt] = \frac{8}{3\pi}##

Where am I going wrong?
 
Oops, I found where i went wrong.
Instead of ##b_1=\frac{1}{\pi}[\int_{-\pi}^0-\cos{t}\sin{2t}dt + \int_{0}^{\pi}\cos{t}\sin{2t}dt] ##
It should be ##b_1=\frac{1}{\pi}[\int_{-\pi}^0-\cos{t}\sin{t}dt + \int_{0}^{\pi}\cos{t}\sin{t}dt] = 0 ##

I would still like to know if it is correct to let n=1 in the bn integral to find b1. Or should you only sub in n=1 after you find the general form of bn?
 
You can set n=1 before doing the integration. You might as well since all you were looking for was ##b_1##.
 

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