Total induced charge of an infinite cylindrical conductor

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total induced charge on an infinite cylindrical conductor, where the surface charge density is defined as sigma = 2eEo cos(phi). Participants are exploring the implications of integrating this charge density over the surface of the cylinder.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of cylindrical coordinates for integration and question the limits for integration in the r, phi, and z directions. There is a suggestion to integrate over a finite piece of the conductor to find charge per length.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on integration limits and the nature of the charge on an infinite conductor. There is a recognition that the total charge cannot be calculated directly for an infinite conductor, leading to a focus on integrating over finite sections instead.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the integration limits and the implications of the surface charge density on the total charge of the conductor. The infinite nature of the cylinder raises questions about the feasibility of calculating total induced charge.

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Homework Statement


calculate total induced charge on a charged cylinder. where the surface charge density is given by sigma= 2eEo cos(phi)



Homework Equations


the total induced charge on the cylinder is

Integral of (sigma) da

can u calculate this integral fo me ... it very urgent..


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Use cylindrical coordinates da \Rightarrow rd\phi dz.
 
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Can u please give me the limits under which i'Ve to integrate for r ,Phi, z.
 
here it is infinite long cylinder and what limits can we take in z- direction.
 
You can't calculate the total charge on an infinite conductor. What you have to do is integrate over a finite piece of conductor then divide the total charge by the length of your z interval. This way you get the total charge on the conductor per length.
 
Cyosis said:
Use cylindrical coordinates da \Rightarrow rdrd\phi dz.

Surely you mean da=rd\phi dz...right?

Cyosis said:
You can't calculate the total charge on an infinite conductor.

Sure you can, just do the angular integral first:wink:
 
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wgdtelr said:
Can u please give me the limits under which i'Ve to integrate for r ,Phi, z.

Well, the entire surface is at some constant radius, so there is no need to integrate over r at all.

If the cylinder is infinitely long, then the limits for z are \pm \infty

And the limits for \phi are 0 to 2\pi...These should all be fairly obvious to you...have you not used cylindrical coordinates before?

As for the integration, do the angular integral first!
 
yaaaaa I've got zero.. after doing the angular part.
 
Surely you mean LaTeX Code: da=rd\\phi dz ...right?

Ugh not very handy of me to write down the volume element, thanks.

Sure you can, just do the angular integral firstp

Actually looking at the function that is to be integrated might help next time!
 
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wgdtelr said:
yaaaaa I've got zero.. after doing the angular part.

And this result should be no surprise, since an induced charge density does not change the total charge on a surface, it merely redistributes the charges. If the conductor was neutral before the charge was induced, it will still be neutral afterwards.
 

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