Transfer Function & Unity Negative Feedback Control System

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around a control systems problem involving transfer functions and unity negative feedback control systems. Participants are exploring questions related to time delays, frequency responses, and controller gains in the context of oscillations and integrators.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance with specific exam questions regarding transfer functions and feedback control systems, indicating uncertainty about where to begin.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for the original poster to show some work before receiving help.
  • The original poster expresses frustration at not knowing how to start, reiterating their request for assistance.
  • A suggestion is made to consult a textbook, specifically "Modern Control Engineering" by Ogata, as a resource for understanding the material.
  • There is a query about whether the recommended book contains exam-type questions for practice, indicating a desire for relevant examples.
  • Another participant notes uncertainty about the types of exam questions but confirms that the book includes many examples.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how to approach the original poster's questions, and multiple views regarding the need for preliminary work and resource recommendations are present.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided specific definitions or assumptions related to the transfer function or feedback control systems, and there is an absence of detailed mathematical steps in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or individuals preparing for exams in control systems or related fields may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi there. I'm wondering if anyone can help. I've got a few past papers I'm working on at the moment and there are a few questions I don't even know where to start with. Here's one:

a. Write down the transfer function for a time delay and then evaluate its corresponding frequency response as a magnitude and phase shift.

b. A unity negative feedback control system that can be modeled as a pure time delay in series with an integrator is controlled using proportional control. After a small change in setpoint is made a sustained oscillation occurs which has a period of 120 seconds. Determine:

i. The value of the controller gain
ii. The magnitude of the processor dead time.

Thanks again in advance
 
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You must show some work before we can help you.
 
CEL, that's the whole point of the sentence in my post that contains the phrase 'I don't even know where to start'!
 
boabby1 said:
CEL, that's the whole point of the sentence in my post that contains the phrase 'I don't even know where to start'!

I suggest that you look for information on some book. Modern Control Engineering, by Ogata, is a good option.
 
Thanks CEL. Does that have exam type questions in it? That's really what I'm after for practice. My notes have examples in but nothing even remotely like the type of questions which have been set in the exam papers I've seen.
 
I have no idea what type are exam questions, but the book has lots of examples.
 

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