Transform a function in terms of y

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The discussion revolves around transforming the function f(x) = 4x^2 - x^3 and the equation y = 18 - 3x in terms of y. The original poster expresses difficulty in transforming the first function into y.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the first function, noting it is a cubic function and questioning the feasibility of finding its inverse. There is mention of the quadratic nature of the second function and its transformation into x in terms of y. Some participants suggest considering restrictions on the domain to make the first function one-to-one.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of cubic functions and their inverses, but there is no explicit consensus on how to proceed with the transformation of the first function.

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There is a recognition that the original poster may have been confused about the function type, as they initially treated the cubic function as quadratic. Additionally, there is a mention of the complexity involved in solving cubic polynomials, which may impact the discussion.

Fiorella
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In a calculus problem I'm doing I have to transform f(x) = 4x^2 - x^3 and y = 18 - 3x in terms of y.

I did the second one and it's:

x = - (y - 18) / 3

But I can't transform the first one in terms of y :confused:
 
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You mean to find its inverse, right? But notice that since your first function is a quadratic one, it means that it does not have an inverse on its whole domain, since the quadratic functions are not one-to-one, so they don't have inverses. But you can work it out in two separate procedures, first saying that x is greater or equal to 0, and the secon one saying that x<0. Now this way our function is one-to-one in the restriction domains, so we can find its inverses by simply switching coordinates, that is x's and y's.
 
sutupidmath said:
You mean to find its inverse, right? But notice that since your first function is a quadratic one, it means that it does not have an inverse on its whole domain, since the quadratic functions are not one-to-one, so they don't have inverses. But you can work it out in two separate procedures, first saying that x is greater or equal to 0, and the secon one saying that x<0. Now this way our function is one-to-one in the restriction domains, so we can find its inverses by simply switching coordinates, that is x's and y's.

It's a cubic, stupidmath. I wouldn't even try to solve it. Fiorella, if this is about that tangent problem you've posted in multiple copies, you don't need to invert the functions.
 
Dick said:
It's a cubic, stupidmath. I wouldn't even try to solve it.
Damn...lol... i didn't notice that the last term was cubic at all... that's why alll my hints work for a quadratic equation... and yeah, solving cubic polynomials is painful as far as words go, sonce i haven't learned how to do it yet.
 
If you learn how to do it, try and forget it as fast as you can. There is a solution, but it's amazingly useless in practical problems.
 

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