Transformation from de Sitter to flat spacetime coordinates

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on the transformation from de Sitter spacetime coordinates to flat spacetime coordinates using the metric \( g_{\mu\nu} = \begin{pmatrix}1 & 0\\ 0 & -u^2\end{pmatrix} \). The transformation law for the metric is applied, leading to the calculation of derivatives for the functions \( u(x,t) = \sqrt{x^2-t^2} \) and \( v = \mathrm{arctanh}(t/x) \). A critical error was identified regarding the negative sign in the substitution for \( g_{vv} \), which, when corrected, resolves the discrepancies in the resulting metric.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of differential geometry and metric tensors
  • Familiarity with de Sitter spacetime and its properties
  • Knowledge of coordinate transformations in general relativity
  • Proficiency in calculus, particularly partial derivatives
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the properties of de Sitter spacetime metrics
  • Learn about coordinate transformations in general relativity
  • Explore the implications of metric tensor signs in calculations
  • Investigate the application of the arctanh function in spacetime transformations
USEFUL FOR

Researchers and students in theoretical physics, particularly those focusing on general relativity and cosmology, will benefit from this discussion. It is also valuable for anyone interested in the mathematical foundations of spacetime metrics and transformations.

Markus Kahn
Messages
110
Reaction score
14
Homework Statement
A metric in a two-dimensional spacetime with coordinates ##(u,v)## is
$$d s^{2}=d u^{2}-u^{2} d v^{2}.$$
Transform the line element ##ds^2## from ##(u, v)## to new coordinates ##(x, t)## defined by
$$x=u \cosh v, \quad t=u \sinh v.$$
Relevant Equations
All given above.
Let me begin by stating that I'm aware of the fact that this is a metric of de Sitter spacetime, aka I know the solution, my problem is getting there. My idea/approach so far: in the coordinates ##(u,v)## the metric is given by
$$g_{\mu\nu}= \begin{pmatrix}1 & 0\\ 0 & -u^2\end{pmatrix}.$$
The general transformation law for the metric is given by
$$\bar{g}_{\alpha\beta} = g_{\mu\nu}\frac{\partial x^\mu}{\partial\bar x ^\alpha}\frac{\partial x^\nu}{\partial\bar x ^\beta}.$$ So we first need ##u(x,t)## and ##t(u,v)##, which are given by
$$u = \sqrt{x^2-t^2}\quad \text{and}\quad v=\mathrm{arctanh}(t/x).$$
We now can calculate
$$\begin{align*}\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} &= \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-t^2}}, &\frac{\partial u}{\partial t} = - \frac{t}{\sqrt{x^2-t^2}} \\
\frac{\partial v}{\partial x} &= -\frac{t}{x^2}\frac{1}{1-\frac{t^2}{x^2}}, &\frac{\partial v}{\partial t} = \frac{1}{x}\frac{1}{1-\frac{t^2}{x^2}}\end{align*}.$$
With this we find
$$\begin{align*}
\bar g _ {xx} &=
g_{uu} \frac{\partial u}{\partial x }\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + g_{vv} \frac{\partial v}{\partial x }\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}\\
&=\frac{x^2}{x^2-t^2}+ (x^2-t^2) \frac{t^2}{x^4}\frac{1}{(1-\frac{t^2}{x^2})^2} \neq \pm 1,
\end{align*} $$
which (I think) it should be. So, am I doing something fundamentally wrong? If not, where exactly do I make my mistake?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Markus Kahn said:
With this we find
$$
\bar g _ {xx} =
g_{uu} \frac{\partial u}{\partial x }\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + g_{vv} \frac{\partial v}{\partial x }\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}\\
=\frac{x^2}{x^2-t^2}+ (x^2-t^2) \frac{t^2}{x^4}\frac{1}{(1-\frac{t^2}{x^2})^2} \neq \pm 1
$$
Note that ##g_{vv} = -u^2##. Did you include the negative sign when you substituted for ##g_{vv}##?
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: JD_PM, Markus Kahn and nrqed
You were right, there is a minus sing missing and with it everything works out... Thanks for the help!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
5K
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K