Graduate Transformation of a scalar field

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The discussion centers on the transformation of a scalar field Σ as a doublet under SU(2)L and SU(2)R, highlighting the mathematical representation of its rotation. Participants express confusion over the differing signs in the transformation terms and the placement of Σ relative to the SU(2) generators Ta. The transformation leads to a gauge invariance condition that relates Σ to its transformed version Σ'. The conversation also touches on the implications of these transformations for terms like \bar{\psi}_L Σ ψ_R and \bar{\psi}_R Σ ψ_L, noting that while overall signs may vary, the relative signs remain consistent. The importance of proper notation, such as using a sigma-dagger for charge conjugation terms, is also emphasized.
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I read somewhere that, suppose a scalar field Σ transforms as doublet under both SU(2)L and SU(2)R, its general rotation is

δΣ = iεaRTaΣ - iεaLΣTa.

where εaR and εaL are infinitesimal parameters, and Ta are SU(2) generators.

I don't quite understand this. First, why does the first term have positive sign but the second term has a negative sign? Second, why is Σ after Ta in the first term, while Σ is before Ta in the second term?
 
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If the scalar field transforms in the (2,2) representation of the 2 SU(2)'s, then there will be a term in the lagrangian of the form:

\bar{\psi}_L \Sigma \psi_R
where the psiL lives in (1,2) and the psiR lives in (2,1)
Transforming that term:
\bar{\psi}_L e^{ iT_L^a \theta^a} \Sigma' e^{-iT_R^b \omega^b} \psi_R
Demanding gauge invariance:
\Sigma = e^{ iT_L^a \theta^a} \Sigma' e^{-iT_R^b \omega^b}
\Sigma = (1 + i T_L^a \theta^a) \Sigma' (1 - iT_R^b \omega^b)= \Sigma' + iT_L^a \theta^a \Sigma' - i \Sigma' T_R^b \omega^b
\delta \Sigma = \Sigma'-\Sigma = - iT_L^a \theta^a \Sigma + i \Sigma T_R^b \omega^b

This might need a review, eg signs, but I guess the main idea is that (as it also was for the SM) and that there is a sign difference (now how it goes depends on how you define the transfs).
What's your reference?
 
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What about a term ##\bar{\psi}_R \Sigma \psi_L##?
 
CAF123 said:
What about a term ##\bar{\psi}_R \Sigma \psi_L##?
It is the same. As I said, the overall signs can change depending on how you define the transformation, but the relative sign will still be the same.
Of course I would prefer writing that term with a sigma-dagger as that's a c.c. term in the Lagrangian?
 

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