Transformation of Equation of Motion by Hankel Transform

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of a second order equation of motion using the Hankel Transform, specifically focusing on the implications of varying boundary conditions over time. Participants are examining the transformation process and its application to the original equation and conditions presented in the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the derivation of the transformed equation and the application of the Hankel Transform identity. Questions are raised regarding specific terms in the transformed equation and how they relate to the original equation.

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Some participants are actively engaging with the mathematical identities and transformations, while others are seeking clarification on specific components of the transformation process. There is a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the application of the Hankel Transform and its implications for the differential equation.

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Participants note the complexity introduced by the boundary conditions and the notation used in the identity, which may not be familiar to all. There is also mention of missing information that could aid in understanding the transformation process more clearly.

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So I've been staring at this problem for hours and I can't figure it out. The idea is to transform a second order equation of motion (depends on 'r' and 't') by the Hankel Transform. I think the purpose is to to avoid using separation of variables which tends to cause trouble when the boundary conditions vary with time. See the first attached image for the equation of motion and the boundary & initial conditions.

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I'm trying to understand how they got to the "transformed equation" (see second attached image). All they say in the paper is:

"Transformation of equation (I) and the initial conditions (equations (2) and (3)), and
use of the boundary conditions (equations (4) and (5)) will yield the differential equation..."


The Attempt at a Solution



I can't quite understand through reading the paper how the equation is transformed. I somewhat follow the derivation of the "Hankel Transformation Identity" (third image) but I can't understand how this is used to transform the above mentioned equation.

Update: I now see how they derived the LEFT side of the equation (i.e. the second derivative of y + a^2...). But how about the RIGHT side? Where does all that come from? e.g. 2a^2/Pi*(row*F2-F1) .

Thank you for any help.



Source: FINITE TRANSFORM SOLUTION OF THE VIBRATING ANNULAR MEMBRANE G.R. Sharp Journal of Sound and Vibration (1967)
 

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This looks like a pretty straight forward application of the identity you are given (although, the identity you posted uses some unfamiliar notation). In terms of [itex]Y(r,t)[/itex] and its Henkel Transform [itex]y(\delta_n,t)[/itex] the identity is

[tex]H=\left(u_n(r),\left[\frac{d^2}{dr^2}Y(r,t)+\frac{1}{r}Y(r,t)\right]\right)=\frac{2}{\pi}\left(\rho_nY(r_2)-Y(r_1)\right)-\delta_n^2y(\delta_n,t)[/tex]

And your initial conditions tell you what [itex]Y(r_2)[/itex] and [itex]Y(r_1)[/itex] are. (And of course, the Hankel Transform of [itex]\frac{d^2}{dt^2}Y(r,t)[/itex] is just [itex]\frac{d^2}{dt^2}y(\delta_n,t)[/itex])
 
Thank you for the response.

Unfortunately I'm missing something.

Where does the [tex]\delta_n^2y(\delta_n,t)[/tex] term go in the transformed differential equation?

That is, the left side of the transformed DE looks to be just the transformation of the left side of the original DE, but the right side is the identity without the [tex]\delta_n^2y(\delta_n,t)[/tex] term.

gabbagabbahey said:
This looks like a pretty straight forward application of the identity you are given (although, the identity you posted uses some unfamiliar notation). In terms of [itex]Y(r,t)[/itex] and its Henkel Transform [itex]y(\delta_n,t)[/itex] the identity is

[tex]H=\left(u_n(r),\left[\frac{d^2}{dr^2}Y(r,t)+\frac{1}{r}Y(r,t)\right]\right)=\frac{2}{\pi}\left(\rho_nY(r_2)-Y(r_1)\right)-\delta_n^2y(\delta_n,t)[/tex]

And your initial conditions tell you what [itex]Y(r_2)[/itex] and [itex]Y(r_1)[/itex] are. (And of course, the Hankel Transform of [itex]\frac{d^2}{dt^2}Y(r,t)[/itex] is just [itex]\frac{d^2}{dt^2}y(\delta_n,t)[/itex])
 
Nevermind. Got it!

Thank you very much for the help.
 
Can someone point me to a good explanation/proof of the previously mentioned Henkel identity?
 

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