Transforming from cartesian to cylindrical and spherical

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of equations from Cartesian coordinates to cylindrical and spherical coordinates, specifically focusing on the equation z^2 = 2x^2 + 2y^2. Participants are tasked with verifying their conversions and identifying the surfaces represented by these equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss their attempts at converting the original Cartesian equation into cylindrical and spherical forms, questioning the correctness of their transformations. There is a focus on identifying the geometric nature of the surfaces described by the equations, with one participant initially misidentifying a cone as a cylinder.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's equations and clarifying misunderstandings. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct form of the cylindrical equation, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to simplify the spherical equation further.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which require them to show their reasoning and transformations without providing complete solutions. There is an emphasis on ensuring the accuracy of their mathematical representations and understanding the geometric implications of their equations.

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Homework Statement


Translate the following equations from the given coordinate system into equations in each of the other two systems. Also, identify the surfaces so described by providing appropriate sketches.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


For my solutions, I obtained z=2r^2 for the cylindrical equation and for the spherical equation I got:
(ρcosφ)^2 = 2(ρsinφcosθ)^2 + 2(ρsinφsinθ)^2. For my sketch I drew an infinite cylinder:
DoubleCone.png

I was wondering whether my conversions were correct, as when I transform the same equation from cartesian to spherical and from cylindrical to spherical I seem to obtain different equations.
 
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yango_17 said:

Homework Statement


Translate the following equations from the given coordinate system into equations in each of the other two systems. Also, identify the surfaces so described by providing appropriate sketches.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


For my solutions, I obtained z=2r^2 for the cylindrical equation and for the spherical equation I got:
(ρcosφ)^2 = 2(ρsinφcosθ)^2 + 2(ρsinφsinθ)^2. For my sketch I drew an infinite cylinder:
DoubleCone.png

I was wondering whether my conversions were correct, as when I transform the same equation from cartesian to spherical and from cylindrical to spherical I seem to obtain different equations.
That's not a cylinder -- it's a cone. (Mathematically, cones have two parts.)

What was your equation in Cartesian form?
 
Sorry I meant cone hahah. My original equation in cartesian form was z^2=2x^2+2y^2
 
yango_17 said:
Sorry I meant cone hahah. My original equation in cartesian form was z^2=2x^2+2y^2
Then your cylindrical equation should be ##z^2 = 2r^2##, not ##z = 2r^2## as you showed earlier.
 
Does the spherical equation look correct?
 
I'll take a look at it in a little while (it's dinner time...)
 
Much appreciated (:
 
yango_17 said:
(ρcosφ)^2 = 2(ρsinφcosθ)^2 + 2(ρsinφsinθ)^2
This is correct, as far as you went, but the right side could be simplified considerably.
 
How would you go about simplifying it?
 
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yango_17 said:
How would you go about simplifying it?
Expand the terms on the right side.
 

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