Transverse waves can propagate through a solid

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the propagation of transverse and longitudinal waves in different media, specifically solids and fluids. Participants explore the underlying reasons for the differences in wave behavior in solids versus liquids, focusing on the structural properties of these materials and the nature of wave motion.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that both longitudinal and transverse waves can propagate through solids, while only longitudinal waves can propagate through the volume of a fluid.
  • One participant suggests considering the structural differences between liquids and solids as a factor in wave propagation.
  • Another participant proposes that wave motion can be conceptualized as many coupled harmonic oscillators, prompting a discussion about the restoring forces involved in different media.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the volume of a fluid has only bulk modulus of elasticity, which allows for longitudinal waves to travel, while transverse waves cannot propagate without the modulus of rigidity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of wave propagation in solids and fluids, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the definitions of elasticity and the specific conditions under which different types of waves can propagate, but these aspects remain unresolved.

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Hey my friends please solve my problem
Both longitudinal and transverse waves can propagate through a solid. A wave on the surface of a liquid can involve both longitudinal and transverse motion of elements of the medium. On the other hand, a wave propagating through the volume of a fluid must be purely longitudinal, not transverse. Why?
 
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Consider differences in structure between liquids and solids.
 


Consider also that wave motion can be thought of as many coupled harmonic oscillators, that is, like lots of springs ... which restore each point to an equilibrium position. What are the restoring forces in each case you asked about?
 


Rashid101 said:
Hey my friends please solve my problem
Both longitudinal and transverse waves can propagate through a solid. A wave on the surface of a liquid can involve both longitudinal and transverse motion of elements of the medium. On the other hand, a wave propagating through the volume of a fluid must be purely longitudinal, not transverse. Why?
volume of fluid has only bulk modulus of elasticity not the modulus of rigidity,so the londitudinal waves can travel ,(transverse wave cannot propapagate without modulus of rigidity.)
 
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