Triangle Area Problem: Which Side Lengths Yield Possible Areas?
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The triangle area problem discussed involves two sides of lengths 8 and 5. The maximum possible area of the triangle is definitively 20, achieved when the angle between the two sides is 90 degrees. The possible areas for the triangle are 20 and any value greater than 0, excluding 24, which exceeds the maximum area. Solutions were provided by members Sudharaka, soroban, and Reckoner, with detailed calculations using both geometric and calculus-based approaches.
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\text{If }\theta = 0^o\text{, the triangle has a minimum area of 0.}
\text{If }\theta = 90^o\text{, the triangle has a maximum area of 20.}
\text{Therefore: }(b)\,20\text{ and }(c)\,5\text{ are possible areas.}
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Two alternate solutions (from Reckoner):
[sp]Solution 1:
Consider the side of length 8 to be the base of the triangle. Since the side of length 5 will be adjacent to this, the height of the triangle must necessarily be less than or equal to 5. So, using the area formula \(A = bh/2\) with \(b = 8\), we have \[\begin{eqnarray} 0 < h \leq 5 &\Rightarrow& 0 < \frac12b\cdot h \leq \frac12b\cdot5\\ &\Rightarrow& 0 < A \leq \frac12\cdot8\cdot5 \\ &\Rightarrow& 0 < A \leq 20.\end{eqnarray}\] Therefore, the triangle must have an area greater than 0 but less than or equal to 20. Thus 24 is not a possible area.Solution 2, with calculus:
We shall call the length of the unknown side \(c\) and use Heron's formula to find the area of the triangle.
The semiperimeter of the triangle is \[s = \frac{5 + 8 + c}2 = \frac{13+c}2,\] so the area of the triangle is \[\begin{eqnarray}A &=& \sqrt{s(s - 5)(s - 8)(s - c)}\\&=& \sqrt{\left(\frac{13+c}2\right)\left(\frac{13+c}2 - 5\right)\left(\frac{13+c}2 - 8\right)\left(\frac{13+c}2 - c\right)}\\&=& \sqrt{\left(\frac{c + 13}2\right)\left(\frac{c + 3}2\right)\left(\frac{c - 3}2\right)\left(\frac{13 - c}2\right)}\\ &=&\frac14\sqrt{-c^4 + 178c^2 - 1521}.\end{eqnarray}\]
This expression is defined for \(c\in[3, 13]\). We do not need to consider negative values of \(c\) since \(c\) represents a length.
We then have \[\frac{dA}{dc} = \frac{-c^3 + 89c}{2\sqrt{-c^4 + 178c^2 - 1521}}\] so that, for \(c\in[3, 13]\), \[\begin{eqnarray}\frac{dA}{dc} = 0 &\Rightarrow& -c^3 + 89c = 0\\&\Rightarrow& c=\sqrt{89}.\end{eqnarray}\]
Testing the critical value \(c = \sqrt{89}\) with the endpoints of the interval \(c = 3\) and \(c = 13\), we see that \(c = \sqrt{89}\) produces a maximum area of 20, and that \(c = 3\) and \(c = 13\) produce a minimum area of 0 (these last two lengths would not form a valid triangle, but by taking values of \(c\) close to these we can create a triangle with area as close to zero as we wish).
Therefore, the area of the triangle could be any value \(A \in (0, 20]\). We cannot have \(A = 24\), as this exceeds the maximum area. [/sp]