MHBTriangle Area Problem: Which Side Lengths Yield Possible Areas?
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The triangle with sides of lengths 8 and 5 can have an area ranging from just above 0 to a maximum of 20, depending on the angle between the sides. The calculations show that areas of 20 and 5 are possible, while an area of 24 is not feasible. Solutions provided by forum members confirm that the area must adhere to these constraints based on triangle geometry principles. Thus, the only valid areas for this triangle are 20 and 5.
\text{If }\theta = 0^o\text{, the triangle has a minimum area of 0.}
\text{If }\theta = 90^o\text{, the triangle has a maximum area of 20.}
\text{Therefore: }(b)\,20\text{ and }(c)\,5\text{ are possible areas.}
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Two alternate solutions (from Reckoner):
[sp]Solution 1:
Consider the side of length 8 to be the base of the triangle. Since the side of length 5 will be adjacent to this, the height of the triangle must necessarily be less than or equal to 5. So, using the area formula \(A = bh/2\) with \(b = 8\), we have \[\begin{eqnarray} 0 < h \leq 5 &\Rightarrow& 0 < \frac12b\cdot h \leq \frac12b\cdot5\\ &\Rightarrow& 0 < A \leq \frac12\cdot8\cdot5 \\ &\Rightarrow& 0 < A \leq 20.\end{eqnarray}\] Therefore, the triangle must have an area greater than 0 but less than or equal to 20. Thus 24 is not a possible area.Solution 2, with calculus:
We shall call the length of the unknown side \(c\) and use Heron's formula to find the area of the triangle.
The semiperimeter of the triangle is \[s = \frac{5 + 8 + c}2 = \frac{13+c}2,\] so the area of the triangle is \[\begin{eqnarray}A &=& \sqrt{s(s - 5)(s - 8)(s - c)}\\&=& \sqrt{\left(\frac{13+c}2\right)\left(\frac{13+c}2 - 5\right)\left(\frac{13+c}2 - 8\right)\left(\frac{13+c}2 - c\right)}\\&=& \sqrt{\left(\frac{c + 13}2\right)\left(\frac{c + 3}2\right)\left(\frac{c - 3}2\right)\left(\frac{13 - c}2\right)}\\ &=&\frac14\sqrt{-c^4 + 178c^2 - 1521}.\end{eqnarray}\]
This expression is defined for \(c\in[3, 13]\). We do not need to consider negative values of \(c\) since \(c\) represents a length.
We then have \[\frac{dA}{dc} = \frac{-c^3 + 89c}{2\sqrt{-c^4 + 178c^2 - 1521}}\] so that, for \(c\in[3, 13]\), \[\begin{eqnarray}\frac{dA}{dc} = 0 &\Rightarrow& -c^3 + 89c = 0\\&\Rightarrow& c=\sqrt{89}.\end{eqnarray}\]
Testing the critical value \(c = \sqrt{89}\) with the endpoints of the interval \(c = 3\) and \(c = 13\), we see that \(c = \sqrt{89}\) produces a maximum area of 20, and that \(c = 3\) and \(c = 13\) produce a minimum area of 0 (these last two lengths would not form a valid triangle, but by taking values of \(c\) close to these we can create a triangle with area as close to zero as we wish).
Therefore, the area of the triangle could be any value \(A \in (0, 20]\). We cannot have \(A = 24\), as this exceeds the maximum area. [/sp]