Trig Assistance for CNC Machining/Engineering

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The discussion revolves around the application of trigonometry in CNC machining and engineering, specifically focusing on the relationships between various dimensions and angles in a geometric configuration involving circles and triangles. Participants are seeking assistance with calculations and clarifications related to a specific problem, which appears to involve a graded assignment or educational resource development.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Participants discuss the similarity of triangles formed by two circles and their respective diameters.
  • Mathematical expressions are presented, including relationships involving sine and tangent functions, such as $dR = \frac{39}{\sin y}$ and $ch = \frac{86}{\tan y}$.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the distance from point S to H, with participants clarifying terms and correcting typographical errors.
  • One participant notes the presence of gaps between the circles, which may affect the calculations, but another argues that it does not impact the solution.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of receiving outside help for what appears to be a graded assignment.
  • A participant clarifies their role as a learning support teacher developing educational resources rather than a student seeking help for personal assignments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and relationships involved in the problem, but there is uncertainty regarding specific distances and the impact of gaps between circles on the solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact implications of these gaps.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the geometric configuration due to missing visual aids and potential ambiguities in terminology. The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding and assumptions about the problem context.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and educators involved in CNC machining, engineering, or trigonometry, particularly those seeking to understand the application of trigonometric principles in practical scenarios.

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Trig help please! CNC Machining/Engineering

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I redraw the picture. you mean by DIA ( diameter ) right ?. you can notice that the two triangles the one with the big circle and the one with small circle are similar.

$dR = \frac{39}{\sin y}, cr = \frac{23.5}{\sin y}, ch = \frac{86}{\tan y}$ now

$dR + cr + ch = 126 $ hence

$126 = \frac{39}{\sin y} + \frac{23.5}{\sin y} + \frac{86}{\tan y} $

$126 \sin y = 62.5 + 86 \cos y $
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Yes DIA means the diameter...
 
Amer said:
I redraw the picture. you mean by DIA ( diameter ) right ?. you can notice that the two triangles the one with the big circle and the one with small circle are similar

Sorry your picture is not working now.
 
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Amer said:
I redraw the picture. you mean by DIA ( diameter ) right ?. you can notice that the two triangles the one with the big circle and the one with small circle are similar.

$dR = \frac{39}{\sin y}, cr = \frac{23.5}{\sin y}, ch = \frac{86}{\tan y}$ now

$dR + cr + ch = 126 $ hence

$126 = \frac{39}{\sin y} + \frac{23.5}{\sin y} + \frac{86}{\tan y} $

$126 \sin y = 62.5 + 86 \cos y $

Just not too sure with the distance from S - H?
 
megani said:
Just not too sure with the distance from S - H?
you mean ch ? it is typo I meant $dh$. ch is perpendicular to SR so we have a right triangle $\tan y = \frac{86}{hd} $
$hd + dR + cr = 126$
 
Yes sorry HD...Initially I though 126-39-23.5 but there's a little gap between the circle, do you see?

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Actually...gap next to big circle too! :-\
 

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yea I see it but it dose not affect the solution. "c" is the intersection between the tangent and the horizontal line "rs". and "ra " is perpendicular to the tangent it is a theorem the angle $acr = y$ I used sine definition to come up with $\sin y = \frac{23.5}{rc} \rightarrow rc = \frac{23.5}{\sin y}$
 
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Hi megani,

Welcome to MHB! This appears to be part of a graded assignment. If so, are you allowed to receive outside help? I ask only to confirm that we aren't taking part in unallowed assistance.
 
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Jameson said:
Hi megani,

Welcome to MHB! This appears to be part of a graded assignment. If so, are you allowed to receive outside help? I ask only to confirm that we aren't taking part in unallowed assistance.

Hi. No. I'm actually a learning support teacher (main focus numeracy) and my colleague and I are developing a revision workbook for some Dip. Engineering students and this was one of their resources.
 

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