Trig, how long is the graph under y=0

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The discussion revolves around the function f(x) = 20 + 25*sin(0.85x), which models temperature over time. The original poster seeks to determine the duration during the first 10 hours when the temperature is negative, specifically under the value of zero. The context involves trigonometric functions and their graphical interpretation.

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  • Participants discuss using graphing calculators to find when the function is below zero. There are attempts to analyze the period of the function and its implications for the temperature being negative. Some participants question the effectiveness of relying solely on calculators and suggest a more analytical approach.

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The conversation includes various attempts to understand the problem, with some participants suggesting setting the function equal to zero to find critical points. There is a recognition of different methods being explored, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive solution.

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Participants note that they have not yet learned calculus techniques such as derivation or integration, which limits their approach to solving the problem. There is also mention of specific values and calculations that may not align with the expected outcomes.

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Homework Statement


f(x)=20+25*sin(0.85x)
x = number of hours from start. f(x) = temperature.
For how long is the temperature negative (under 0) during the first 10 hours? We haven't learned how to derive/integrate trig equations so that is out of the question.

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Most people with similar problems have said they used their graph calculator to solve these kinds of questions. I tried figuring out the period (7.39) and took the half of that + the remaining 2.61 but during those there is no more under the graph. So the answer would seem to be around 3.7 but it is only 1.5. How do I use my graph calculator (TI-84) to solve this?
 
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BadatPhysicsguy said:

Homework Statement


f(x)=20+25*sin(0.85x)
x = number of hours from start. f(x) = temperature.
For how long is the temperature negative (under 0) during the first 10 hours? We haven't learned how to derive/integrate trig equations so that is out of the question.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Most people with similar problems have said they used their graph calculator to solve these kinds of questions. I tried figuring out the period (7.39) and took the half of that + the remaining 2.61 but during those there is no more under the graph. So the answer would seem to be around 3.7 but it is only 1.5. How do I use my graph calculator (TI-84) to solve this?
You could set f(x) = 0 and solve the resulting equation. There are two values of x in the interval 0 ≤ x ≤ 10 for which f(x) = 0. Find these values and you'll have the interval where the temperature is negative.
 
BadatPhysicsguy said:

Homework Statement


f(x)=20+25*sin(0.85x)
x = number of hours from start. f(x) = temperature.
For how long is the temperature negative (under 0) during the first 10 hours? We haven't learned how to derive/integrate trig equations so that is out of the question.

You don't need calculus to solve this problem. You just need to find out for 0≤x≤10 where f(x) < 0. You can use a little algebra to clean things up a bit.

The Attempt at a Solution


Most people with similar problems have said they used their graph calculator to solve these kinds of questions. I tried figuring out the period (7.39) and took the half of that + the remaining 2.61 but during those there is no more under the graph. So the answer would seem to be around 3.7 but it is only 1.5. How do I use my graph calculator (TI-84) to solve this?

Instead of using your calculator to think for you, try working the problem out by analyzing it. You're not going to school to learn how to work a calculator, but how to learn to analyze and solve problems.
 
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