Trig Identities and Double Angle Formulas

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The problem involves finding the value of tan(4a - b) given the values of tan(a) and tan(b). The context is centered around trigonometric identities and double angle formulas.

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  • Participants discuss substituting known values for tan(a) and tan(b) into the relevant trigonometric identities. Some suggest avoiding full expansions of tan(4a) and instead substituting values directly. Others explore the calculations for tan(2a) and tan(4a) using the double angle formulas.

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Several participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, particularly in calculating tan(2a) and tan(4a). There is a mix of attempts and clarifications, with some participants expressing confusion at various steps while others provide corrections and insights.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of assistance provided. There is an emphasis on understanding the application of trigonometric identities rather than simply obtaining a final answer.

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[SOLVED] Trig Identities and Double Angle Formulas

Homework Statement


If tan(a) = 1/5 and tan(b) = 1/239, find tan(4a - b)


Homework Equations


tan2x = 2tanx/1-tan^2x

tan(x-y) = tanx - tany/ 1 +tanx tany


The Attempt at a Solution



tan (4a - b) = (tan4a - tanb)/(1 + tan4a tanb)
= ((2tan2a/1-tan^2 2a) - tanb)/ (1-(2tan^2 2a/1-tan^2 2a)tanb)

= ((2tan2(1/5)/1-tan^2 2(1/5)) - tan(1/239)) / (1 - (2tan^2 2(1/5))tan(1/239))
= ((2tan(2/5))/1-tan^2 (2/5)) - tan(1/239)) / (1 - 2tan^2 (2/5)tan(1/239))

After this I get stuck. Please someone help. I need this really quick.
 
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tan(a) = 1/5 means that where ever you see tan(a) you can replace it with 1/5

tan2(a)=2tan(a)/{1-tan^2(a)}
you can find a value for tan2a...but if I were you, I would not bother to expand out tan4a. I would just find the value for tan4a and substitute it
 
ok, Here is my new try:

tan4a - tanb / 1 + tan4a tanb

tan(4/5) - tan(1/239) / 1 + tan4(1/5) tan(1/239)
tan(951/1195) / 1 + tan(951/1195)

After this, what would I do? Please help. Thanks.
 
well you still aren't getting it

tan4a=\frac{2tan2a}{1-tan^22a} ...call this (*)

now separately you know that tan2a=\frac{2tana}{1-tan^2a}

so then substituting tana=\frac{1}{5}

tan2a= \frac{\frac{2}{5}}{1-\frac{1}{25}}
tan2a=\frac{5}{12} now that you have a value for tan2a can you sub this value into * and find the value for tan4a ?
 
Yes, I finally got it. Thanks to rock.freak667.

tan (4a - b) = tan4a - tanb / 1 + tan4a tanb

tan4a = 2tan2a / 1-2tan^2 a

tan2a = 2tana / 1- tan^2a
= 2(1/5) / 1 - (1/25)
= (2/5) / (24/25)
= 5/12

tan4a = 2tan2a / 1-2tan^2 a
= 2(5/12) / (1 - 25/144)
= (5/6) / (119/144)
= 120/119

tan (4a - b) = tan4a - tanb / 1 + tan4a tanb
= (120/119) - (1/239) / 1 + (120/119)(1/239)
= (28561/28441) / 1 + 120/28441
= (28561/28441) / (28561/28441)
= 1

Thanks very much to rock.freak667. I really needed help on this.
 

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