Trigonometric and inverse trigonometric equations

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The discussion revolves around the relationships between trigonometric equations and their corresponding inverse trigonometric equations. Participants explore the concept of "analogous" relationships and whether a systematic method exists to identify these correspondences. The scope includes theoretical exploration and mathematical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that for any trigonometric equation, there exists a corresponding inverse, citing examples like sin(x)² + cos(x)² = 1 and arcsin(x) + arccos(x) = π/2.
  • Another participant emphasizes the geometric interpretation of these relationships, noting that while some equations share elements, they may not have a direct mathematical correspondence.
  • Several participants question the definition of "analogous" in this context, seeking clarity on how to identify such relationships systematically.
  • A participant proposes that there is a duality in certain identities, providing an example of a specific relationship but acknowledging that not all identities have clear inverses.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the existence of a common rule among the equations, suggesting that patterns may be coincidental rather than meaningful.
  • Another participant points out that the relationship between sin²(x) + cos²(x) = 1 and arcsin(x) + arccos(x) = π/2 may not be as clear-cut as initially suggested.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of "analogous" or the existence of a systematic method for identifying corresponding inverse trigonometric equations. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in defining "analogous" and the vagueness of the original question posed. Participants express uncertainty about the relationships between various trigonometric identities and their inverses.

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Given a trig equation, like: sin(x)² + cos(x)² = 1² or sin(x) = 1/csc(x), exist a correspondent inverse: arcsin(x) + arccos(x) = π/2 and arcsin(x) = arccsc(1/x), respectively. Thus, given an any trigonometric equation, how find its correspondent inverse?
 
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Use geometry.

i.e. in a right angle triangle with unit hypotenuse and x=adjacent side, then
... ##x=\sin\theta=\cos(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta)##

Thus ##\arcsin(x)=\theta## and ##\arccos(x)=\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta## so ##\arcsin(x)+\arccos(x)=\frac{\pi}{2}##

But notice that this has nothing much to do with the identity: ##\sin^2x + \cos^2x =1## i.e. the "x" in that relation refers to something different... the only "correspondence" is that the expression have a "cos" and a "sin" and a "+" in them. Do not confuse correspondences in labels for correspondences in maths.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Use geometry.

Would you find the analogous inverse for all equations below using geometry?
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Define analogous in this context.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Define analogous in this context.

Look how a trigonometric equation have an analogous inverse trigonometric equation:
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I don't see any rule that those have in common - except the general stuff that they have some elements in common. The notation has them make pretty patterns on the page but that is just numerology at best. The only way to identify a pleasing pattern is to try lots of things and look.

Please provide the definition that you want to work to... how would you describe the analogous nature is such a way that another person can go look for it rather than rely on recognizing it after the fact?
 
I think there is a genuine, though not precisely defined, duality here. For example, the dual of the identity ##2\sin^2 x = 1 - \cos 2x## is ##\arccos(1-2y^2) = 2\arcsin(\left|y\right|).##

(Note: the absolute value comes into the picture because ##\arccos(\cos(x)) = \left|x\right|## -- at least in the range that we care about.)

You can obtain these by simple algebra.

EDIT: I should point out that not all of the identities have nice "inverses". For example, there isn't a nice inverse of ##\sin 2x = 2\sin x \cos x## as far as I can tell.
 
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Does that same duality apply to all the examples given?
 
Well, I didn't check the ones involving the hyperbolic functions, but it is the same thing that is going on in the first and last sets in the above post.

EDIT: Obviously it has nothing to do with the identity in the original post, though -- I don't think there's any clear relationship between ##\sin^2 x + \cos^2 x = 1## and ##\arcsin x + \arccos x = \pi/2##. I think the "dual" of the Pythagorean identity is more like ##\arccos(\sqrt{1-y^2}) = \arcsin(\sqrt{y^2})##.
 
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Actually, the correspondent of ##\arcsin(x)+\arccos(x)= \frac{\pi}{2}## is ##\sin(\theta) = \cos(\phi)## where ##\theta + \phi = \frac{\pi}{2}##
 
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Well if you two can thrash out a definition you can agree on, we may have something to talk about ;)

My contention is that unless the "correspondence" or "dual" can be articulated from the start, then it will not be possible to find the relations asked for.

The short answer to the question posed in post #1 is: you cannot, because the problem is too vaguely phrased.
 

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