Trigonometric functions using accel & time

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a skier racing down an 18-degree slope, where the skier accelerates at 2.5 m/s² over a 5.0-second interval. The objective is to determine the horizontal and vertical components of the skier's acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric functions to resolve the skier's acceleration into horizontal and vertical components. There is an exploration of whether the initial velocity should be considered and how to apply the acceleration vector with the given angle.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using sine and cosine functions to find the components of acceleration. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarification on the relationship between the acceleration vector and the angle of the slope. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that this is their first physics class in some time, leading to questions about the integration of trigonometric functions with physics equations. There is a concern about the assumptions made regarding initial velocity and the relevance of distance in the context of acceleration.

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Homework Statement


A skier races down an 18 degree ski slope. During a 5.0s interval, the

skier accelerates at 2.5m/s squared. What are the horizontal and vertical

components of the skiers acceleration during this time?

Homework Equations



d = ViT + 1/2aT^2
d=distance
Vi=initial velocity
T=time
a=acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution



I drew a right angle triangle with the hypotenuse being the 18 degree incline slope the skier is descending on. The formula above is the only relevant one I've been able to find within my notes, and that's assuming initial velocity is zero (the "skier races" bit makes me suspicious). That said, when I solve it out with the formula, I get 31.25 for the hypotenuse. From there I try to use sin to figure out the bottom side of the triangle made by the downward acceleration, but I keep getting numbers like .59 or 9, which seem far too small for that specific side in relevance to the hypotenuse. I have a feeling this is just a stupid mistake, but our teacher has yet to go over using physics equations & trigonometric functions combined. I'd be extremely grateful for a push in the right direction.
 
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Ok, good. So you knew that you needed a right triangle.

But, you already have your hypotenuse.

You know that the acceleration vector of the skier is 2.5 m/s^2. So, 2.5 m/s^2 is the hypotenuse, correct?

You know that you have an 18 degree angle.

So, what does that make a_{x} and a_{y}?
 
Thanks for the quick reply! I thought that I was needing to use acceleration & time to find d then use sin/cos to find the other sides. How would I use an acceleration vector with the angle to find the other sides/accelerations? I'm also assuming that Ax and Ay are the non sloping part of the right angle triangle, right? Pardon my ignorance. This is the first physics class I've taken since 9th grade, and we still haven't gone over a whole lot in this one.
 
Xioxxi said:
Thanks for the quick reply! I thought that I was needing to use acceleration & time to find d then use sin/cos to find the other sides. How would I use an acceleration vector with the angle to find the other sides/accelerations? I'm also assuming that Ax and Ay are the non sloping part of the right angle triangle, right? Pardon my ignorance. This is the first physics class I've taken since 9th grade, and we still haven't gone over a whole lot in this one.
Yes, Ax and Ay are the non-sloping parts of the right angle triangle.

Do not worry about "ignorance." Ignorance would be not asking the questions. :smile:

And I'm a student as well. So don't worry.
 
Aggression200 said:
Yes, Ax and Ay are the non-sloping parts of the right angle triangle.

Do not worry about "ignorance." Ignorance would be not asking the questions. :smile:

And I'm a student as well. So don't worry.

I appreciate it. I'm unsure of how I would use an acceleration vector to find the other sides, though. Every other time I've done trigonometric functions prior to this I had an actual distance, which was why I was trying to find it as d at first.
 
Ok, so you would simply use either cos\Theta or sin\Theta.

\Theta = 18 degrees

Now, on your right triangle, which of the non-hypotenuse sides goes up and down, and which goes left and right?

The one that goes up and down is your a_{y}.
The one that goes left and right is your a_{x}.

a_{y}=a_{t}(sin\Theta)
a_{x}=a_{t}(cos\Theta) Where a_{t} is 2.5 m/s^2.

Correct?
 
Aggression200 said:
Ok, so you would simply use either cos\Theta or sin\Theta.

\Theta = 18 degrees

Now, on your right triangle, which of the non-hypotenuse sides goes up and down, and which goes left and right?

The one that goes up and down is your a_{y}.
The one that goes left and right is your a_{x}.

a_{y}=a_{t}(sin\Theta)
a_{x}=a_{t}(cos\Theta) Where a_{t} is 2.5 m/s^2.

Correct?

Alright, I believe I understand now. For a_{y}=a_{t}(sin\Theta), I got .77254 m/s^{2}. I believe it'd be negative too since the acceleration is going downward for that specific part, right?

Then for a_{x}=a_{t}(cos\Theta) I got 2.377 m/s^{2}

These feel like much better answers than what I was getting prior. I appreciate the help immensely.
 
Xioxxi said:
Alright, I believe I understand now. For a_{y}=a_{t}(sin\Theta), I got .77254 m/s^{2}. I believe it'd be negative too since the acceleration is going downward for that specific part, right?

Then for a_{x}=a_{t}(cos\Theta) I got 2.377 m/s^{2}

These feel like much better answers than what I was getting prior. I appreciate the help immensely.

You are right as far as I can tell.

Acceleration in the y-direction will be negative and will be positive in the x-direction.

If you wish to check your answers, just do this...

a_{t}=\sqrt{a_{x}^{2}+a_{y}^{2}}

You're very welcome for the help.
 

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