TRIGONOMETRY equation derivation [HELP]

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of a trigonometric equation related to the signal length from a satellite to an Earth station, specifically focusing on the parameters involved, including satellite height and Earth's radius. The context includes mathematical reasoning and derivation techniques.

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  • One participant presents an equation for the signal length from a satellite to an Earth station, asking for help in deriving it.
  • Another participant questions the accuracy of the diagram associated with the problem, suggesting it may not be correct.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the variable theta and the specifics of the arc AC, indicating a need for more information to assist effectively.
  • One participant proposes a potential outline for a proof, suggesting a coordinate system centered on the Earth and defining points in relation to a circle, but notes uncertainty about the variable theta.

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Participants do not appear to agree on the accuracy of the diagram or the clarity of the problem statement. Multiple competing views and uncertainties regarding the variables and the derivation process remain unresolved.

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The signal length from satellite to the Earth station (AC) can be found as


2(H)/[{sin^2(theta)+(2(H)/R)}^1/2+sin(theta)] Due to the Earth projection

where "H" is satellite height and and R is the Earth radius

My question is Can you help me to derive this equation? how they have obtained it?

Regards
 

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that's the wrong diagram :confused:
 
tiny-tim said:
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that's the wrong diagram :confused:

No tiny, that is what i mean :) this is my question
 
hgphtgi said:
The signal length from satellite to the Earth station (AC) can be found as2(H)/[{sin^2(theta)+(2(H)/R)}^1/2+sin(theta)] Due to the Earth projection

where "H" is satellite height and and R is the Earth radius

My question is Can you help me to derive this equation? how they have obtained it?

Regards

What is theta in the diagram? I don't see it. Also, I'm assuming that ##\stackrel{\frown}{AC}## doesn't contain B, correct?

You aren't being very specific. If you want our help, give us the necessary information. :confused:

I'm thinking your equation is ##||\stackrel{\frown}{AC}||=\frac{2h}{\sqrt{\sin^2\theta+\frac{2h}{r}}+\sin(\theta)}##.

Edit:
Preliminarily (I don't know what theta is in the diagram), I'm thinking the rough outline of a proof might be along the lines of this:

1. Consider O (the center of earth) as the center of a coordinate system.
2. Defining points A, B, and C in terms of the Earth as a circle (set of all points equidistant from O)
3. Noting that arc AC is on a circle centered at some new point ##(x_1,y_1)## with radius ##\sqrt{x^2+(r+h-y_1)^2}##.
4. ##s=r\theta##
 
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