Triple Integral: Volume Between z+x^2+y^2=4 and x^2+y^2+z^2=6

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume between the surfaces defined by the equations z + x² + y² = 4 and x² + y² + z² = 6. Participants are exploring the setup of a triple integral to calculate this volume.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the intersection points of the surfaces and the equations for x² + y² derived from them. There is an exploration of using polar coordinates and the limits for r and z. Some participants question the bounds for r in relation to z and whether polar coordinates can be considered in a Cartesian context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights on the bounds for z and r. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in determining the correct limits for integration, and suggestions are made to simplify the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the cap formed by the surfaces and how it affects the volume calculation. There is a mention of constraints related to the bounds of integration that depend on the relationship between z and r.

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Homework Statement



find the volume between

z +x^2 + y^2 = 4 and x^2+y^2+z^2 = 6

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The Attempt at a Solution



what i did first was solve for the intersection points of z
i got 2 and -1.

then you get two equations for x^2 + y^2

x^y+y^2 = 5 and x^2+y^2=2

so then i used polars and i figure that r goes from 2 to 5, z goes from 2 to -1 and pi goes from 0 to 2pi

is that right?
 
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Kuma said:
then you get two equations for x^2 + y^2

x^y+y^2 = 5 and x^2+y^2=2

so then i used polars and i figure that r goes from 2 to 5, z goes from 2 to -1 and pi goes from 0 to 2pi

is that right?

The bounds for z are correct, but the bounds of r=sqrt(x2+y2) change with z:
[tex]\sqrt{4-z}<r<\sqrt{6-z^2}[/tex]

ehild
 
I've attached a plot of the two surfaces. Do you also have to take into account the cap?
 

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No, just the portion in between. Thanks for the plot.
 
The cap is in between the two surfaces.
 
ehild said:
The bounds for z are correct, but the bounds of r=sqrt(x2+y2) change with z:
[tex]\sqrt{4-z}<r<\sqrt{6-z^2}[/tex]

ehild

but what if i want to make z variable doesn't r become constant?
and one more thing when we you are finding the domain in cartesian is polar coordinates also considered to be in the cartesian way ??
 
Yes, you can let r run between constant values and have the limits for z depend on r, if you want. Ehild's suggestion, however, will make the math simpler.
 
i get it 3 domains for z if i look at the figure i get it thanks
 

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