Trouble determining the slope of the graph

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The discussion revolves around determining the slope of a graph related to a physics problem, specifically involving parameters such as force and displacement. Participants are attempting to calculate a constant referred to as B, which is derived from their slope calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are sharing their calculated slopes and values for B, expressing frustration over incorrect results. Some suggest checking the R^2 value for accuracy and questioning the definitions of parameters like "length" and "displacement." Others propose adding specific points to the graph for improved accuracy.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants sharing their attempts and results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of parameters and the need for specific units. There is no clear consensus on the correct values, as multiple interpretations and calculations are being explored.

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Participants mention issues with software and data entry, which may be impacting their ability to verify their calculations. There is also a sense of urgency due to impending deadlines.

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For the slope, I got 0.4532 and for B, I got 74.09, but they're both wrong! And my excel program keeps crashing everytime i try to print screen it!
This is really urgent and I don't know who else to turn to because this is due very very soon and I'm desperate!

Also, what about this one:

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Check your R^2 value and see if it is close to 1. When I plot your values I don't get anything near 0.4 for the gradient. Does your answer require a specific set of units?
 
rock.freak667 said:
Check your R^2 value and see if it is close to 1. When I plot your values I don't get anything near 0.4 for the gradient. Does your answer require a specific set of units?

No :(
My computer keeps acting up whenever I try to print screen and save the excel file...
What numbers did you get?
 
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Around 0.008 N/cm or so.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Around 0.008 N/cm or so.

I submitted "0.008 N/cm" but webassign says it's incorrect :( :'(
That must mean my B is wrong too... :(
 
You might actually need to post your excel graph so we can see what is happening.
 
Try 0.85 N/m.

Also, I don't think that the parameter you call "length" is not the actual length of the wire, since, on the graph, when the force goes to zero, the "length" goes to zero. Therefore, I can only conclude that the parameter that your teacher called length in the table is actually displacement relative to the length under no load. If the parameter really is displacement, then you can add the point 0,0 to your graph for added accuracy.
 
Chestermiller said:
Try 0.85 N/m.

Also, I don't think that the parameter you call "length" is not the actual length of the wire, since, on the graph, when the force goes to zero, the "length" goes to zero. Therefore, I can only conclude that the parameter that your teacher called length in the table is actually displacement relative to the length under no load. If the parameter really is displacement, then you can add the point 0,0 to your graph for added accuracy.

Oh it worked! Thanks!

So all I need for B is do,

B = Faverage / IaverageLaverage
B = (0.02075)/(892.75 mA)(0.02525 m)
B = 0.02075/22.54
B = 0.000920586
B = 920 T
 
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Fot Question 2,

I got the slope correct. It's 0.0339.

But how do I find B, given L = 4.1 cm?

This is what I did (I chose any value for F and I from the table):
B = F/IL
B = (0.0158 N) / (0.48 A)(0.041)
B = 0.0158/0.01968
B = 0.802 N/a

"INCORRECT"

:(
 
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You still there? :(
 
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Chestermiller said:
Try 0.85 N/m.

Also, I don't think that the parameter you call "length" is not the actual length of the wire, since, on the graph, when the force goes to zero, the "length" goes to zero. Therefore, I can only conclude that the parameter that your teacher called length in the table is actually displacement relative to the length under no load. If the parameter really is displacement, then you can add the point 0,0 to your graph for added accuracy.

You still there? :(
 
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Oh no :( :( :(
 
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Can someone please help me?
 
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Anybody still here?
 

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