Trouble finding the derivative

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y = x ln(x + √(1+x²)) - √(1+x²). The user expresses difficulty with the logarithmic component and rearranging the resulting expression. There is confusion regarding the derivative of √(1+x²), with a correction made about the sign in the derivative calculation. The user confirms the derivative of ln(x + √(1+x²)) as part of their process. Overall, the conversation highlights challenges in differentiating complex functions involving logarithms and square roots.
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Hi

I'm having trouble finding the derivative of this function.

y=x ln (x+\sqrt{1+x^2})-\sqrt{1+x^2}

This is what I've tried so far, but I seem to be getting nowhere.
 

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Hi raul!
The nasty part of this is, of course the logarithm part, and possibly rearranging the expression you get afterwards.

For starters:
What is the derivative wrt. x of \sqrt{1+x^{2}}?
 
-\frac{x}{\sqrt{1+x^2}} ?
 
Why the minus sign??
 
Right, no minus sign there.. my bad.

However, now I get \ln(x+\sqrt{1+x^2})
Is this correct?
 

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