Trouble with Initial Value Condition Questions

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The discussion revolves around an initial value condition problem involving a function z(x,y) defined as z(x,y)= 2x+ g(xy). Participants explore the implications of the initial condition z= x on the line y=1 and seek clarification on the derivation of the general solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the derivation of the general solution, specifically the appearance of the term -xy in the expression z(x,y)= 2x-xy.
  • Another participant suggests finding an alternative relation that satisfies the given conditions.
  • A different participant clarifies that if g(x)= -x, then it follows that g(xy)= -xy, which explains the term in the solution.
  • A later reply indicates that the original poster has understood the explanation provided.

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The discussion reflects a progression from confusion to understanding for the original poster, but it does not indicate a consensus on alternative relations or solutions beyond the one discussed.

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The discussion does not resolve potential alternative forms of g(x) or other relations that might satisfy the initial value condition.

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Students or individuals working on initial value problems in mathematics, particularly those involving functional notation and general solutions.

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I have been looking at an example of a initial value condition problem in my notes and don't really understand where the solution came from. Here is the question:

Let z(x,y)= 2x+ g(xy) and add the initial value conditon, z= x on the line y=1. Find the general solution of the initial value problem.


1. Replace z(x,y)=2x+g(xy) wih the condition to get x= 2x+g(x) for all x, so that g(x)= -x

I understand everything so far but then the next step says "hence z(x,y)= 2x-xy is the general solution." Where does the -xy come from?

Any help or advice would be much appreciated! Thank you
 
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Can you find another relation that would fit the conditions?
 
It's just a matter of the "functional notation" you have been using for years:

If g(x)= -x then g(u)= -u, g(a)= -a, g(v)= -v, etc.

In eactly the same way, g(xy)= -xy.
 
OK I understand now, thank you
 

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