Troubleshooting Integral: Solving x * cos(x)dx with Ease

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the function x * cos(x) with respect to x. Participants express difficulty in solving the integral and explore various integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants suggest using integration by parts, while others question the choices of u and dv. There are inquiries about differentiation of related functions to gain insights into the integral.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify integration methods, with some participants providing partial solutions and others expressing frustration over complete solutions being shared. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach without a clear consensus on the final answer.

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Participants note the importance of adhering to forum rules regarding the sharing of complete solutions and the inclusion of the constant of integration.

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Hello,

I am having trouble with this integral, I don't know how to solve it.

integral(x * cos(x))dx
I tried it in the calculator and it gave me the integral back, and I don't know what method of integration to use to figure it out.
Well if anyone has a solution that would be great, thanks.
 
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What do you get when you differentiate x * sin(x)?

How about x^2 * sin(x)?

Do these give you some ideas about what you could differentiate to get to x * cos(x)?
 
dark_omen said:
Hello,

I am having trouble with this integral, I don't know how to solve it.

integral(x * cos(x))dx
I tried it in the calculator and it gave me the integral back, and I don't know what method of integration to use to figure it out.
Well if anyone has a solution that would be great, thanks.
I would suggest integration by parts. There is on choice of "u" and "dv" that will lead to a very simple form after a single integration by part.s
 
Okay, I had to do integration by parts twice and I got:
((x^2 * cos(x))/6) + ((x^2 * cos(x))/3), I don't know if that is right though but it's what I came up with.
 
dark_omen, that answer is not correct.

Here's my solution:

u = x
dv = cos x dx

So:
du = dx
v = sin x

uv - I(v * du) = x sin x - I(sin x dx) = x sin x + cos x.

I've verified this answer in Mathematica as well.
 
Okay, so I guess I made the wrong choice in u and dv, and that's why my answer didn't come out right. Thanks.
 
Guillochon said:
dark_omen, that answer is not correct.

Here's my solution:

u = x
dv = cos x dx

So:
du = dx
v = sin x

uv - I(v * du) = x sin x - I(sin x dx) = x sin x + cos x.

I've verified this answer in Mathematica as well.

Why can't people just stop to give out COMPLETE solutions?!
?
Why?! :confused: :confused: :confused: What's so tempting about posting complete solutions like that?
Noone bothered to read https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=28, eh?
And also, where has the Constant of Integration gone? Vanished?
 
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Well, I find it excusable in that OP had shown quite a bit of work already.
 
VietDao29 said:
Why can't people just stop to give out COMPLETE solutions?!
?
Why?! :confused: :confused: :confused: What's so tempting about posting complete solutions like that?
Noone bothered to read https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=28, eh?
And also, where has the Constant of Integration gone? Vanished?

First you chide me for giving out the complete solution. Then you lecture me about not giving the complete solution... :) I thought that since he knew how to take an indefinite integral in the first place, he'd be smart enough to remember the +C.

Anyhow, no, I guess I missed that sentence in the rules. My apologies. Though I don't quite understand why it isn't left to the discretion of the person helping as to how much they want to help.
 

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