Trying to access a NOAA database

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around accessing solar radiation data from a NOAA database, specifically focusing on the U.S. National Solar Radiation Database. Participants are exploring how to retrieve and interpret the data, including expectations for surface solar radiation strengths by state.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in accessing solar radiation data from the NOAA website, specifically looking for surface solar radiation strengths by state.
  • Another participant points out that the original poster is looking at metadata tables rather than the actual data tables, suggesting the need to parse an XML file to access the information.
  • A third participant expresses frustration, labeling the government expenditure as "useless," while also acknowledging that the data is available if one knows where to look.
  • A later reply reiterates that the data exists but emphasizes the importance of understanding how to access and organize it effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accessibility and usefulness of the data. While some acknowledge the existence of the data, others criticize the way it is presented and the effort required to access it. There is no consensus on the overall value of the government expenditure related to the database.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the structure of the database and the need for technical skills to extract meaningful data. There are unresolved questions regarding the clarity of the data presentation and the ease of access.

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I'm trying to read solar radiation data from the following website...can anyone assist me in accessing this information...thank you. (I am expecting to see surface solar radiation strengths by state.)

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/documentlibrary/surface-doc.html

You have to scroll down to this:

Dataset 3282: U.S. National Solar Radiation Database

and then select that line item..they are in numercial order...
 
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Naty1 said:
I am expecting to see surface solar radiation strengths by state.[/url

Um, you're looking at the metadata tables, not the actual tables.You're going to have to parse/import the XML file into a db and then read out information, but as far as I can tell these files only give you information about the tables/data (like column name and range limits) anyway.

Actual database: NSRDB
http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/1991-2005/hourly/list_by_state.html
 
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So it's yet another useless government expenditure of my tax dollars...just great!

Thanks for the assistance...
 
Naty1 said:
So it's yet another useless government expenditure of my tax dollars...just great!
The data is all there, you just have to know what you're looking at/where to look. Having lab facilities where you can just download all the data and arrange it sensibly helps a lot.
 

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