Trying to understand electric and magnetic fields as 4-vectors

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of electric and magnetic fields when treated as 4-vectors within the framework of special relativity. Participants are examining the relationships between the components of these fields and the implications of Lorentz transformations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the transformation equations for electric and magnetic fields as 4-vectors and questions how to construct the right-hand side of the transformation equations from their derived components. Other participants inquire about the correctness of terms involved in the Lorentz transformation and seek clarification on the definitions of certain components.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the transformation equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the Lorentz transformations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's approach or the necessary terms involved.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the Lorentz transformation equations and the specific forms of the electric and magnetic field components. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in earlier posts, indicating a need for careful examination of definitions and relationships within the electromagnetic tensor framework.

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Assuming that the first pair of equations given below are correct, how do I show that the electric and magnetic fields obtained transform correctly under general Lorentz boost?
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I was trying to show that the field transformation equations do hold when considering electric and magnetic fields as 4-vectors. To start off, I obtained the temporal and spatial components of ##E^{\alpha}## and ##B^{\alpha}##. The expressions are obtained from the following equations:

$$E^{\alpha}=F^{\alpha\beta}U_{\beta},\: B^{\alpha}=\frac{1}{2c}\epsilon^{\alpha\beta\mu\nu}F_{\beta\mu}U_{\nu}$$

I obtained:
\begin{align*}
E^{0}&=F^{00}U_{0}+F^{0i}U_{i}=\frac{\gamma(u)}{c}\left(\vec{E}\cdot\vec{u}\right)\\
E^{i}&=F^{i0}U_{0}+F^{ij}U_{j}=\gamma(u)\left[\vec{E}+\left(\vec{u}\times\vec{B}\right)\right]^{i}\\
B^{0}&=\frac{1}{2c}\epsilon^{0\beta\mu\nu}F_{\beta\mu}U_{\nu}=-\frac{\gamma(u)}{c}\left(\vec{B}\cdot\vec{u}\right)\\
B^{i}&=\frac{1}{2c}\epsilon^{i\beta\mu 0}F_{\beta\mu}U_{0}+\frac{1}{2c}\epsilon^{i\beta\mu j}F^{\beta\mu}U_{j}=\gamma(u)\left[\vec{B}-\frac{\vec{u}}{c^2}\times\vec{E}\right]^{i}
\end{align*}

I interpreted the above components as that of fields observed by a stationary observer. To show that the fields transform correctly I have to show that:
$$\vec E' = \gamma \left( \vec E + c\vec \beta \times \vec B\right) - \frac{\gamma^2}{\gamma +1} \vec \beta \left( \vec\beta \cdot \vec E \right )$$
$$\vec B' = \gamma \left( \vec B - \frac{\vec \beta}{c} \times \vec E\right) - \frac{\gamma^2}{\gamma +1} \vec \beta \left( \vec\beta \cdot \vec B \right )$$

i.e. I have to show that I am able to construct the RHS from the components I have found. However, I do not seem to be able to show that using the Lorentz transformation equations under general boost. The Lorentz transformation equations under general boost is given as:
$$A^{'0}=\gamma\left(A^0-\vec{\beta}\cdot\vec{A}\right)$$
$$\vec{A}'_{\parallel}=\gamma\left(\vec{A}_{\parallel}-\vec{\beta}A^0\right)$$
$$\vec{A}'_{\perp}=\vec{A}_{\perp}$$

How should I proceed?
 
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The formula without ##\gamma^2## terms seem correct Lorentz transformation. How do you estimate these terms necessary ?
 
What do you mean?
 
\vE¯∥=\vE∥,\vE¯⊥=γ(\vE⊥+\vv×\vB⊥)I am sorry to say my post #1 was wrong.

Electric fields and magnetic fields from electromagnetic tensor comes from
E_{i}=cF_{0i},\ B_i=-\frac{1}{2}\epsilon_{ijk}F^{jk}

I wonder whether it is same as your formula in post #1 and what are ##E^0## and ##B^0##?
 

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