Turbine Efficiency: Calculating Power & Combined Efficiency

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The discussion revolves around calculating turbine efficiency and combined efficiency in the context of power generation. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the calculations related to turbine and generator efficiencies based on given power outputs and energy conversions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mechanical output and electrical output, questioning how to derive efficiencies from given values. There is an attempt to clarify the calculation of gravitational energy and its conversion to power.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided various calculations and interpretations of turbine efficiency, with some suggesting specific formulas and methods for determining combined efficiency. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between different power outputs without a definitive consensus on the final calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific values such as mass flow rate and height of water, which are critical for calculating potential energy. There is mention of homework constraints and the need to apply certain equations to derive efficiencies.

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Homework Statement


I have attached the question. I'm not really sure how to do this one


Homework Equations


power = work done/time


The Attempt at a Solution


Is the turbine efficiency simply the power generation (750kW) divided by the mechanical output (800kW) which is so 750/800 x 100 = 93.75% efficiency?

and then there's the combined turbine generator efficiency. How do you do that?
 

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No it's not what you think.
 


You have been given rate of mass flow, height of water(70m). Calculate gravitational energy being converted (mgh).It gives potential energy converted per second.
 


so i simply do 1500(9.81)(70) = 1030050 J/s ? then what
 


Then you know the mechanical power output of turbine.Remember the power from potential energy can only be used by turbine and not by generator.
((800kW)/(1030050))*100
Is efficiency of turbine.
 


I think answer's coming out to be 77.66% for turbine efficiency if you do the calculations.
 


ohh I get it, because j/s is watts - power. okay so then what is the electric power generation and the combined turbine-generator efficiency. is it simply (750000/1030050) x 100?
 


No.Just apply unitary method.
800kW of mechanical output gives 750kW of electrical output.
1W of mechanical output gives (750/800)W. ---equation (1)
(kW get cancelled.You can Multiply 1W to both sides)
We know efficiency of turbine as 77.66%.
This means that when 100W of energy is inputted to turbine 77.66W of energy is it's mechanical output.
Now multiply 77.6 to equation (1). answer is on right hand side-((750/800)*77.6).It comes around 72.81%
 


Ahh okkay thank you i get it now
 

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