TV antenna amplifier noise calculation

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The discussion centers on calculating the required input voltage and signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) for a 4-way TV antenna amplifier with a gain of 20dB, a noise figure of 6dB, and a maximum output of 85dBuV. The calculations reveal that the maximum input voltage required to achieve the output is 1.778mV, derived from the equation 85dBuV = max input + 20dB. For the SNR, the input signal level of 5dBmV translates to 65dBuV, resulting in an SNR of 39dB after accounting for the noise figure.

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Homework Statement



Hello everyone. A 4-way TV antenna amplifier has the following specifications:

Bandwidth = 40-862Mhz
Gain = 20dB
Noise figure = 6 dB
Max output = 85dBuV
Input impedance = output impedance = 75 ohm

Question 1: Calculate the required voltage on the input of the amplifier to achieve 85dBuV max output.

Question 2: If the aerial signal level is 5dBmV and the input noise level is 20dBuV, determine SNR (signal-to-noise ratio) on the output of the amplifier.

Homework Equations



##SNR = 20 log (\frac{V_{signal}}{V_{noise}})##

The Attempt at a Solution



Question 1:

Max output = max input neglecting noise and distortion + amplifier gain
85dBuV = max input + 20dB
Max input = 65dbuV

Input voltage = ##antilog (\frac{65}{20})## = 1.778mV

Question 2:

5dBmV = ##antilog (\frac{5}{20})## = 1.778mV
20dBuV = ##antilog (\frac{20}{20})## = 0.01mV

##SNR_{in} = 20 log (\frac{1.778}{0.01})## = 45dB

##SNR_{out} = SNR_{in} - noise figure## = 45 - 6 = 39dB

Am I thinking correctly? Thank you for your comments.
 
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1 is correct, 2 is not--you messed up an antilog There's no need to convert to volyage for #2. it's simpler to just work in dB straight through.
 
Right, okay. In that case:

5dBmV + 60 = 65dBuV

##SNR_{in dB} = 65 - 20 = 45dB##
##SNR_{out dB} = SNR_{in dB} - noise figure = 45 - 6 = 39dB##

I get the same results. Where am I mistaken?
 
Sorry, I wasn't looking carefully at the units. I agree with your calculation.
 
Thank you.
 

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