Two blocks connected by string passing over a pulley on an incline

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two blocks connected by a string over a pulley on an incline. The scenario includes parameters such as mass, acceleration, and angles, with a focus on determining the tensions in the string and the moment of inertia of the pulley.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for the tensions T1 and T2, with one participant successfully calculating T2 but struggling with T1. There is an exploration of the relationship between tension, mass, and acceleration, as well as the moment of inertia of the pulley.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the equations to use for T1 and the moment of inertia, while others are attempting to verify their calculations. There is acknowledgment of differing values in the diagram referenced, and participants are actively seeking clarification on their results.

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Participants note discrepancies in the values presented in the diagram compared to the problem statement, which may affect their calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their derived moment of inertia.

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Homework Statement



Two blocks, as shown below, are connected by a string of negligible mass passing over a pulley of radius 0.225 m and moment of inertia I. The block on the frictionless incline is moving up with a constant acceleration of 1.97 m/s2 on an angle of 35.1 degrees.

m1 = 15.4 kg
m2 = 19.5 kg

A set up of the blocks and incline can be seen below, but the values above are used in all calculations
http://www.webassign.net/pse/p10-71alt.gif



(a) Determine the tensions in the two parts of the string.
T1:
T2:
(b) Find the moment of inertia of the pulley.

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The Attempt at a Solution



K, so I solved for T2 but I am unable to solve T1.

For T2, I set m2g-T2 = m2a
(19.5)(9.8) - T2 = (19.5)(1.97)
T2 = 152.6 N


For T1, I found the x component of acceleration to be 1.97cos35.1 = 1.612 m/s^2
From there I though T1 would be mgsin35.1 but that was wrong. I know I need the acceleration to find T1 (at least I think so) because the question specifically stated the acceleration so it must be used to equate T1 with ma or something like that. Please help!

As for B, I know the moment of inertia of a pulley to be 1/2Mr^2.
Rotational Kinetic energy = 1/2Iw^2 ( I don;t know if this is needed to solve the question)

Please, some guidance for both of the questions would be greatly appreciated!
 
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The values given in the diagram and the problem are different. Why?

T1 - m1g*sinθ = m1a.

And (T2 - T1)*r = I*α where α is the angular acceleration which is equal to a/r.
 
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The diagram I found off the internet has different values because it is not from my actual question. I posted it as a pictorial representation of what my question looks like.

Thank you for T1, it worked :)!

Now to try the second part :)
 
Ok, so I tried the second part

T2 - T1 = Ialpha
152.6N - 117.1 N = I (a/r)
35.5 N = I (1.97/0.225)
4.05 kg*m^2 = I

The answer came out to be wrong :( I don't see why this answer is wrong, it makes sense to me. Any ideas?
 
Sorry.

T2 - T1 = I*α/r. = I*a/r^2
 
T2 - T1 = I*α/r. = I*a/r^2

T2 = 152.6N
T1 = 117.1 N

a = 1.97 m/s^2
r = 0.225m

T2 - T1 = I*a/r^2
152.6 - 117.1 = I (1.97/0.225^2)
35.5 = I (38.9)
0.912 kg*m^2 = I


Thank you :)
 

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