Two different answers for work done during compression

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of work done in a reversible process and the use of the first law of thermodynamics. The coefficients in the two equations for work done are different due to the gas being monatomic, which affects the value of γ. After researching and finding the correct value for γ, the coefficients are shown to be equal, resolving the issue.
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etotheipi
Homework Statement
Calculating work done during adiabatic compression (please see problem statement below)
Relevant Equations
Ideal gas laws, internal energy
I'm having a little trouble with part a) of this question:

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Since it is stated that the heating is slow, I thought it was reasonable to assume the process is reversible which means that the pressure in both sides should be equal. Consequently, $$W = - \int_{V_{0}}^{V_{1}} P dV = - \int_{V_{0}}^{V_{1}} kV^{- \gamma} dV = \frac{1}{\gamma-1}(P_{1}V_{1} - P_{0}V_{0})$$ For ##\gamma = 1.5##, the outside coefficient is ##2##.

However, if I use the first law (with ##Q=0## due to the insulated/adiabatic condition), I get $$W = \Delta U = \frac{3}{2}(nRT_{1} - nRT_{0}) = \frac{3}{2}(P_{1}V_{1} - P_{0}V_{0})$$I can't figure out why the two coefficients of ##(P_{1}V_{1} - P_{0}V_{0})## are different!

After this is sorted out, I assume it will just be a case of doing some rearrangement (i.e. w/ ##\frac{P_{0}V_{0}}{T_{0}} = \frac{P_{1}V_{1}}{T_{1}}## etc.) to get it into the required form?
 
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etotheipi said:
However, if I use the first law (with ##Q=0## due to the insulated/adiabatic condition), I get $$W = \Delta U = \frac{3}{2}(nRT_{1} - nRT_{0}) = \frac{3}{2}(P_{1}V_{1} - P_{0}V_{0})$$I can't figure out why the two coefficients of ##(P_{1}V_{1} - P_{0}V_{0})## are different!
The coefficient ##\frac{3}{2}## in ##\Delta U## is only for a monatomic ideal gas. Is the gas monatomic in this problem?
 
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TSny said:
The coefficient ##\frac{3}{2}## in ##\Delta U## is only for a monatomic ideal gas. Is the gas monatomic in this problem?

Thank you, I just googled ##\gamma## for an ideal monatomic gas (it turns out to be roughly 1.66), which gives ##\frac{1}{\gamma-1} \approx 1.5##, as was obtained via the other method!
 
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etotheipi said:
Thank you, I just googled ##\gamma## for an ideal monatomic gas (it turns out to be roughly 1.66), which gives ##\frac{1}{\gamma-1} \approx 1.5##, as was obtained via the other method!
Is everything OK now?

For a general ideal gas, ##U = nC_VT## and ##C_V = \frac{R}{\gamma - 1}##.
 
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