Two different demonstrations on the complex plane

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The discussion revolves around proving two statements related to complex numbers and their geometric representations in the complex plane. The first statement involves demonstrating that the equation of a line or a circle can be expressed in a specific form using complex variables. The second statement requires proving that a certain condition involving the modulus of a complex number describes a circle.

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  • The original poster attempts to manipulate complex equations to derive geometric forms, questioning the correctness of their approach to both statements. Participants explore the real and imaginary components of the complex expressions and discuss the implications of the modulus condition.

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Some participants provide feedback on the correctness of the first exercise, while others suggest methods for simplifying the second exercise. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the second condition indeed describes a circle, with differing opinions on the interpretation of the geometric implications.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about combining two questions in one thread and considers splitting them if necessary. There is also mention of specific constraints regarding the values of k in the second statement.

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Hi there, I have to prove this two sentences . I think I've solved the first, but I'm quiet stuck with the second.

The first says:

1) Demonstrate that the equation of a line or a circumference in the complex plane can be written this way: [tex]\alpha z . \bar{z}+\beta z+\bar{\beta} \bar{z}+\gamma=0[/tex], with [tex]\alpha,\gamma\in{R},\beta\in{C}[/tex]

So I called z and beta:

[tex]z=x+iy,\beta=u+iv[/tex]

Then developing the products I get:
[tex]\alpha(x^2+y^2)+2(ux-vy)+\gamma=0[/tex]

And making alpha equal zero I get the equation for a line, right? (for u and v fixed).

Then completing the square and reordering:

[tex]\left(x+\displaystyle\frac{u}{\alpha}\right )^2+\left(y-\displaystyle\frac{v}{\alpha}\right )^2=\displaystyle\frac{u^2}{\alpha^2}+\frac{v^2}{\alpha^2}-\frac{\gamma}{\alpha}[/tex]

This is the equation for the circle, is this right?

In the other hand I got:

2) Prove that the geometrical place for the points [tex]z\in{C}[/tex] that verifies [tex]\left\|{\displaystyle\frac{z-1}{z+1}}\right\|=k[/tex] is a circumference ([tex]k\in{R},1\neq{k}>0[/tex]).

I couldn't make much for this. I called z=x+iy again:

[tex]\left\|{\frac{z-1}{z+1}}\right\|=k\Rightarrow{\left\|{\frac{(x+iy-1)(x-iy+1)}{(x+iy+1)(x-iy+1)}}\right\|=k}\Rightarrow{\left\|{\frac{x^2+y^2+2iy-1}{(x+1)^2+y^2}}\right\|=k}[/tex]

I don't know what to do from there.

Bye.

PS: sorry if it bothers you that I made two questions in the same topic, but I thought it was quiet trivial and it didn't deserved two different topics, but I can split it if necessary.
 
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The thing in the denominator is real by construction (You multiplied it by the complex conjugate). What are the real and imaginary parts of the numerator?
 
[tex]Re(w)=\frac{x^2+y^2-1}{(x+1)^2+y^2}[/tex]
[tex]Im(w)=\frac{2y}{(x+1)^2+y^2}[/tex]

BTW, is the first exercise right?
 
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The first exercise is correct.

For the second one, a modulus of a complex number:
[tex] |w| = \sqrt{ \left( \mathrm{Re} w \right)^{2} + \left( \mathrm{Im} w \right)^{2}} = k[/tex]
Square the equation, get rid off the denominators and simplify the expression. Write what you get.
 
Thanks :)
 
Actually, it does not seem to correspond to a circumference. The condition

[tex] \left|\frac{z - 1}{z + 1}\right| = k \Leftrightarrow |z - 1| = k |z + 1|[/tex]

means that the distance from the point [itex](1, 0)[/itex] is [itex]k[/itex] times bigger than the distance from the point [itex](-1, 0)[/itex]. I am not sure if this is a circle in general.
 
Actually, scratch what I was saying. Square the above:
[tex] |z - 1|^{2} = k^{2} |z + 1|^{2}[/tex]

But, [itex]| w |^{2} = \bar{w} w[/itex], so:
[tex] (z - 1)(\bar{z} - 1) = k^{2} (z + 1) (\bar{z} + 1)[/tex]

Simplify this and use part 1 of the problem.
 
Thank you very much :)
 

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