Two dimensional projectile motion

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The problem involves a particle projected at an angle from a point on a regular hexagon, with the goal of determining the velocity at maximum height while ensuring the projectile touches specific corners of the hexagon. The subject area is two-dimensional projectile motion.

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  • Participants discuss the coordinates of the corners of the hexagon and their relation to the projectile's trajectory. There are attempts to derive equations based on the geometry of the hexagon and the projectile's motion. Some participants express confusion about the correctness of the coordinates used and seek clarification on the derivation process.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some have provided guidance on how to approach the coordinate system and the equations involved, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the coordinates and the need for additional transformations.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the range of the projectile, which is not known, and how this affects the trajectory equation. Participants are also considering the implications of the coordinate system chosen for the hexagon.

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Homework Statement


A regular hexagon of side a=10√3 m is kept at horizontal surface as shown in the figure. A particle is projected with velocity V m/s at an angle θ from point k such that it will just touch the all four corners B,C,D,E. If O is the centre of hexagon and x-axis is parallel to horizontal and y-axis is perpendicular to AF and CD sides of hexagon then answer the following

A) Velocity of projectile at maximum height

The Attempt at a Solution


Let k be the origin. R be the range of projectile
Coordinates of B = (R/2 - a, a√3/2)
Coordinates of C = (R/2 - a/2, a√3)
Equation of trajectory : [itex]y=x \tan \theta \left(1-\dfrac{x}{R} \right)[/itex]

Satisfying the above coordinates does not give me the right answer.
 

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utkarshakash said:

Homework Statement


A regular hexagon of side a=10√3 m is kept at horizontal surface as shown in the figure. A particle is projected with velocity V m/s at an angle θ from point k such that it will just touch the all four corners B,C,D,E. If O is the centre of hexagon and x-axis is parallel to horizontal and y-axis is perpendicular to AF and CD sides of hexagon then answer the following

A) Velocity of projectile at maximum height

The Attempt at a Solution


Let k be the origin. R be the range of projectile
Coordinates of B = (R/2 - a, a√3/2)
Coordinates of C = (R/2 - a/2, a√3)
Equation of trajectory : [itex]y=x \tan \theta \left(1-\dfrac{x}{R} \right)[/itex]

Satisfying the above coordinates does not give me the right answer.

I don't think your coordinates are correct. Can you show how did you find them? Its difficult to follow your working.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
I don't think your coordinates are correct. Can you show how did you find them? Its difficult to follow your working.

Let the mid-point of AF be T. KT=R/2. Drop a perpendicular from B to the line KAFL. Call it BW.
AT=a/2. AW=acos60° = a/2. Thus, WT = a. x coordinate of B = KT-WT = R/2 - a.
For y-coordinate, BW = asin60 = a√3/2. Similar approach can be followed to find to coordinates of C.
 
R is not known. Determine the coordinates from the given side of the hexagon, in he suggested coordinate system (origin is at the centre of the hexagon).

ehild
 
utkarshakash said:
Let the mid-point of AF be T. KT=R/2. Drop a perpendicular from B to the line KAFL. Call it BW.
AT=a/2. AW=acos60° = a/2. Thus, WT = a. x coordinate of B = KT-WT = R/2 - a.
For y-coordinate, BW = asin60 = a√3/2. Similar approach can be followed to find to coordinates of C.

Looks ok to me.

Plugging in the coordinates, you get two equations, divide them to eliminate tan. Solve for R.
 
ehild said:
R is not known. Determine the coordinates from the given side of the hexagon, in he suggested coordinate system (origin is at the centre of the hexagon).

ehild

But then the equation of trajectory would need a transformation and it would be difficult to do that.
 
The trajectory is a parabola, and you do not need the range. You need theta and V.

And you need the coordinates anyway.

ehild
 

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