Two dipoles on an axis. There is one point where the E field vanishes.

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric fields generated by two dipoles positioned along an axis, specifically focusing on identifying a point where the electric field vanishes. The subject area includes concepts related to electric dipoles and their fields.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants have attempted various equations related to electric fields and dipole moments but are seeking guidance on how to approach the problem. Questions have been raised about writing the equation for the combined field at a specific position and the implications of placing the origin at the position of one dipole.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion and seeking clarification on the concepts involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of dipoles and the direction of forces exerted by them, but no consensus has been reached on the solution.

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Participants are reviewing for a final exam and are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying principles rather than simply finding a solution.

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Homework Statement


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THE ANSWER IS C

Homework Equations


None given. Pondering:

E=(1/(2(pi)εnaught))(σ/z^3)
p=qd
U=-p dotprod E

The Attempt at a Solution


We have attempted many variations of the above equations to try and find the answer. We are just seeking a point in the right direction as we are currently reviewing for a final. Any help is appreciated, thank you!
 
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_Chemicals_ said:

Homework Statement


49sNn.png

THE ANSWER IS C


Homework Equations


None given. Pondering:

E=(1/(2(pi)εnaught))(σ/z^3)
p=qd
U=-p dotprod E


The Attempt at a Solution


We have attempted many variations of the above equations to try and find the answer. We are just seeking a point in the right direction as we are currently reviewing for a final. Any help is appreciated, thank you!

The relevant equation is given in the problem text:
the magnitude of each dipole field along the axis can be approximated by 2p/(4πε0x3) where x is the distance between the observation point and the dipole
. You have two dipoles, one of magnitude p1=27 Cm, the other p2=1Cm at distance L from each other. What is their resultant field at distance x from the bigger one?

ehild
 
We're still confused :(
 
If you put the origin at the position of the bigger dipole - can you write the equation for the combined field at position x?
 
_Chemicals_ said:
We're still confused :(

What confuses you? :smile:

You certainly know what a dipole is: you can imagine it like a compass, but it is electric instead of being magnetic. There is an electric field around it, as if it were a pair of charge, a positive and a negative, some small distance apart. You also know that the electric field strength is the force exerted on unit positive charge: it has direction. Place a positive charge at distance x to the right from the 27Cm dipole. What is the direction of the force it exerts on the charge? What is the direction of the force the other dipole exerts?

ehild
 

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